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[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Jessup managed to burn the intact Half-Life CD

What?

[–] [email protected] 42 points 1 month ago (8 children)

"Burning" a CD means copying it. Idk why. I used to have someone in my family who would burn movies for everyone so we didn't have to pay to rent or own.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 month ago

When you burn a disc it means using a laser to etch the data as pits and lands in a track on the disc. You're physically changing the disc when you write to it.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 month ago (1 children)

What I ment was that bruning a disc is the secondary step to making a copy if a disc, you first need to rip the original disc into an ISO file.

I remember when we got our first CD burner, it was a black and copper colored Philips unit, it was back when you made sure to leave the computer alone when burning a CD because you you didn't want to risk buffer underrun.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

not if you had one of those setups where you can burn right from a source CD to multiple target blanks

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

But the way the sentence is structured is saying that burning happened to the OG disc. Burning is what happens to the copy disc.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Did you want the person to detail every step they took?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago (12 children)

The least they could do is say that they burned a copy/blank or ripped the original instead of mixing it up and saying that the original was burned. It makes it sound like they were writing to the original.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago (5 children)

It's the difference between "I borrowed some money" and "I loaned someone money". They mean different things, including people occasionally creating awful sentences like "I borrowed him some money" (shudder).

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

No, but the verbage is still incorrect for what they were doing. The correct way wouldn't be that much more words, just different words.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Not really. "The information on the original was burned into another new disc"

"I burned the original disc"

Lol this is the dumbest thing ive spent time commenting.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (10 children)

"I burned the original disc" would never mean "I made a copy of the original disc to another CD-R" to anyone that actually knows what burning a disc is.

It would either mean "The original disc is a CD-R that I burned an image to", or "I threw the original disc in a fire".

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[–] [email protected] 55 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)
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[–] [email protected] 57 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Burning is writing a disc. Ripping is extracting data from a disc. Whoever wrote the article used lingo they don't understand.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 month ago (2 children)

That is what I thought, I have burned many discs in my day, and I have never got an ISO from bruning a disc.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago

I knew it had to do with putting data on a disc. I didn't know the specifics.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I haven't thought about burning CDs in a long time, man that takes me back. Remember Nero Burning ROM?

I think the etymology of the term is that when you're writing data onto a disk you're shooting a laser onto it to alter the chemistry and change its color, for which "burning" the data into it makes sense.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 month ago (1 children)

It wasn't the colour, you would burn little bubbles into the disk. The bubbles would deflect a laser and flat parts would not. This would give the 0 or 1 bits.

There were CD- and CD+ versions. I don't know which is which but one would create a divot, and the other would create a bubble. Either way the laser is diverted away from the sensor.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Ah, that's what it was! I always thought it was just a different color for 0 and 1, today I learned! That makes more sense when I think about it.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 month ago (3 children)

CD - red laser

BlueRay - blue laser.. shorter wavelength --> more data on same size disk

and inbetween there was DL - dual layer
light scribe - could etch a picture on the top of the cd
and RW - rewriteable CDs

(CD is short for compact disc)

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Burning was originally used in the sense that to write to a disc you used the laser to "burn" in your data, at least irrc. It just started to be used interchangeably for copy and write operations. These days I think "rip" makes more sense.

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[–] [email protected] 74 points 1 month ago (3 children)

It is sort of surreal to see someone so young they don't know what burning a CD is in an article about a game older than CD burners.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (3 children)

Just a small correction (that makes things worse):

It is sort of surreal to see someone so young they don't know what burning a CD is writing an article about a game older than CD burners.

The person asking the question here is correct, the phrase in the article makes no sense, and it's likely written by someone who heard the lingo "burn" in reference to discs but it's too young to have use it themselves (otherwise they would have said they ripped the intact CD, or they burned copies of it)

Edit: Also I think CD burners came out around the same time (I remember a store that sold copies in my city back in the 90s), although I personally didn't had a disk burner for many years (but also I didn't played Half-life for many years after it came out, so I guess it evens out)

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[–] [email protected] 88 points 1 month ago

Huge -> literally nothing will change, even for die-hard half life fans.

[–] [email protected] 60 points 1 month ago (1 children)

“ “ - Gordon Freeman (New dialogue found on beta disc)

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[–] [email protected] 184 points 1 month ago (1 children)

TLDR: a guy who beta tested Half-Life found a CD of said beta

[–] [email protected] 36 points 1 month ago (2 children)

And might be sued by Valve shortly

[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I'm guessing he signed an NDA so I'm not sure what he was thinking distributing it so publicly.

[–] [email protected] 38 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Do NDAs last for 25 years or something?

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 month ago (1 children)

NDA was the wrong term to use there but I'm sure there was a "don't give the game to anyone" in there they might be enforceable. I hope they don't sue, though

[–] [email protected] 25 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I don't think Valve is going to do anything about a 20 year old beta being leaked.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 month ago (4 children)

Me neither but it's still a bold move

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