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And instead changing the time work and other things happens depending on where you are. Would be easier to arrange meetings across the globe. Same thing applies to summertime. You may start work earlier if you want, but dont change the clocks!

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[–] [email protected] 26 points 10 months ago

We do, it's called Universal Coordinated Time. The time is now 00:37 UTC, or 16:37 Pacific Daylight Savings Time.

[–] [email protected] 40 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

You mean like UTC? That thing we already have?

[–] [email protected] 17 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Yeah, what if we had that... but different... but the same?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 10 months ago

Like the Good Place's plan to make larger mini doughnuts that weren't just regular doughnuts.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

eh... do you really want to be scheduled to start work at 8am when 8am is mid-afternoon? me neither.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 10 months ago (1 children)

If we had a single time zone, we couldn't use "am" or "pm".

These mean ante-meridiem and post-meridiem. So, before midday and after midday. There would be no concept of midday linked to hours that could apply to all locations.

The most apropiate would be talking in 24h format. It wouldn't bother me if someone said I have to wake up at 13 and finish my job at 21. These are just numbers.

But yeha, it's still a bad idea because people would have to change calendars constantly because of daylight savings.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago

yeah I see what you mean. you'd have to replace all 12 hour clocks world-wide though - and then accept that it would take generations for people to adapt. it'd probably never going to happen.

[–] [email protected] 33 points 10 months ago (1 children)

It's a cool idea, but then you lose the local representation of the daylight cycle, which just complicates things again as you try to schedule things with people in other countries without knowing if it's their bedtime or not.

I play games with international friends and work with international colleagues, so I have my fair share of troubles with time zones. If anything, abolishing daylight savings worldwide would yield much better results.

On a side note, when scheduling events on Discord, I like to add in a unix timestamp that shows everybody their local time. Quite convenient!

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

It's a cool idea, but then you lose the local representation of the daylight cycle

We already lost that with our 1-hour time zones and daylight savings. Clock time is no longer bound to solar time, and I think we're overdue for the retirement of local time.

Managing geographically-dispersed schedules on a single unified time standard isn't any more complicated than trying to remember everyone's time zones already is, and would likely reduce confusion overall since unlabeled timestamps would no longer be ambiguous.

If some manager wants to shift their workers' schedule to account for seasonal light availability? Then just fucking do that and don't make everyone have to run around manually updating all the clocks.

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[–] [email protected] -1 points 10 months ago (2 children)

We already have it: it's called UTC. You should read about it probably, instead of asking the whole fucking world to change its uses for your convenience, shouldn't you?

[–] [email protected] 15 points 10 months ago

This response was pointlessly aggressive.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

My guy, instead of being condescending for no reason, perhaps you should take the time to actually understand OP's question.

OP is asking about why the world doesn't unite under one time zone (UTC+0, UTC-5, UTC+8), not time standard (UTC, TAI, GPST). The hypothetical scenario would be that midnight in the UK would be morning in Japan and evening in the US, but still considered "12 AM" by everyone in those countries, with the hope that it simplifies time coordination across the globe without having to calculate the hour offsets.

I hope you learn to be better, especially in a community called "No Stupid Questions".

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I understand the question very well, it was asked a week or two ago.

This doesn't simplify anything for anyone because then time would mean nothing. Because of this people would not use this system anyway.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago

Then please use that as your answer instead of taking such a needlessly aggressive and rude stance in your comment.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 10 months ago

For synchronizing of things like work and school we'd still end up with zones all using the same local hours (the day goes from 4:00 to 4:00 to e.g.) so we'd still end up with timezones there...

All of the clocks around the world would read the same, sure, but now you have no idea what part of the day 4:00 is somewhere else. You'd end up doing almost the same math as we do now by offsetting their time from yours so you could understand it (4:00 is the same as my 13:00 for e.g. so it's one hour past noon over there) but now we lose the shared understanding of which numbers correspond to which times of day. This means you'd be having to mentally convert all their new times of day to the clock time instead of having intuitive sense of their meaning.

Instead of seeing the local time is 12:00 and immediately knowing it's noon, now you'd look up what time their day started and see how many hours it's been since then (12, so it's noon there) and that offset is how you'd need to think of it and already what clocks show now...

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