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[–] [email protected] 24 points 3 weeks ago
[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

We've been using Linear in my latest company and it is actually quite good. No bullshit fast UI, boards, issues linking with Git, a support that can take a feature request that is often implemented in a week or two after asking it.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 weeks ago

I've tried out Linear (only peeked into it) and it's the perfect contrast of performance against Jira.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

jira made me quit software dev (not by its own, but a significant factor)

[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 weeks ago

I hate jira because it slots your work stupidly by the management, or so I feel it.

A manager usually works with time slots, say 8 a day (or whatever), they are all mostly disconnected, like do meeting with A, go to standup of team B, PMD for dev C etc etc. Dev isn't like that but everyone seems to start thinking it is: how many "items" was finalised last "sprint" etc and other stupid metrics.

Am I alone here or is there even worse things with jira in your opinions?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 weeks ago

Now imagine a very large company implementing that shit software for other kinds of engineering projects! Yey! Lot's of great engineers have quit because of it.

Jira, we'll brain drain your company and make it seem more productive!

Next thing you know....well the guy who understood that is no longer here. But we can take our best guess.... should the door pop inward or outward during a flight?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Azure Dev Ops and Azure Boards is even worse. Wish I could quit dev

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 weeks ago

I feel you there too bud!

[–] [email protected] 22 points 3 weeks ago

They have a predatory business model. "Hey we're cheaper than the competition". Once you're soaking in it and need features, they have options but it'll cost you. I reckon they have slick sales people who know how to pander to the egos of middle management as well. You know ... The people who don't actually have to use the tool but sure like to feel like they somehow matter.

[–] [email protected] 67 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (3 children)

All my homies hate agile, Jira, scrum, kanban, etc.

In truth none of these items are inherently wrong - what's wrong is leadership picking up new tools and adopting management structures expecting them to solve fundamental organizational issues.

Instead they only serve to magnify the outcomes of your existing corporate culture.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

It's funny that "Individuals and interactions over processes and tools" is the first of the tenets of agile and the most ignored. I think most people's frustrations with agile are from people worrying too much about processes and tools.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Scrum/Agile has 2 advantages over waterfall.

  • things that don't work get stopped early, without stigma.

  • the team works together towards an overall goal, it is not individuals working on individual tasks.

The "agile" tools themselves rarely encourage either of these practices.

Jira

  • assigns tasks to individuals.
  • treats closed and cancelled differently.
[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 weeks ago

I think you hit the main issue right there. Devs don't hate the tool, they hate that the tool doesn't solve the issue. Like trying to drill a hole with a screw and a hammer.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 weeks ago

Strong agree! It drives me crazy how much hate scrum agile gets because when it's implemented intelligently I've found it really helps align everyone's expectations (I'm a dev)

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