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Element is launching the world’s first communications platform based on the upcoming Matrix 2.0 release. The result is blazing performance which outperforms the mainstream alternatives - across a decentralised system that enables self-hosting and end-to-end encryption - as well as open standard interoperability to revolutionise real time communication between large organisations.

Built on Matrix 2.0, Element X now rivals the performance of centralised consumer messaging apps, empowering organisations to address the shadow IT issues caused by consumer-grade messaging apps in the workplace.

The new Element communications solution consists:

  • Element X, our next-gen app with an array of new features
  • Element Call fully integrated into Element X, for native Matrix-encrypted voice and video
  • Element Server Suite, our backend hosting solution for powerful admin control and Matrix 2.0 performance
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[–] [email protected] 9 points 3 weeks ago

Native OIDC support...something I wish more self hosted apps would prioritize. I shouldn't need to maintain a bunch of user account systems on my own servers.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

All I read is Marketing Tech Speak that sounds no different than anything else that gets advertised in my face. At work, we use Teams. It is a pain sometimes when it gets a little buggy, but integrates into SharePoint/OneDrive and the noise suppression in meetings is pretty awesome. At home I use discord or GChat because that is where all my friends are. I don't assume I have privacy on any of these platforms and they all work on my phone and computer.

How is the user experience? Ultimately, give me privacy, but if the user experience and UI don't give any improvements over the corporate ones, I will have to try it some other time.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 weeks ago

"Blazing fast" makes me check out so fast.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

You can self-host it, making it as private as you want.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

But my question is about the user experience and UI. I can run a docker script, but I care about the thing I can see and interact with.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (2 children)

The user experience is generally worse than Discord, like any federated system compared to centralized platforms.

There is Cinny, a client with an UI similar to Discord. Element X is a great mobile client, and imo far superior to Discord for 1 on 1 chats (to be fair, I really dislike Discord 1 on 1 chat experience, so I'm biased).

Edit: It's worth noting that Element X does not support Spaces yet, which allows for grouping of rooms similar to Discord Server.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I currently use Synapse with bridges to Signal and Discord, and Matrix API. Is Element X a better way to go server-side now?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 weeks ago (8 children)

as I understand, Element X is a client application (for mobile, for now)

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 3 weeks ago (4 children)

Not available on f droid yet it seems

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

My disappointment is immeasurable and my day is ruined.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

The new release isn't out on F-Droid my friend, last updated 3 months ago as of this comment.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 weeks ago

last F-droid weekly news mentioned problems with their reproducible build process

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Schildi chat has SchildiNext on f-droid

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

not on f-droid official yet, but on a separate repo. the page also refers to the list of customizations

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 weeks ago

Indeed, probably in the coming days

[–] [email protected] 10 points 3 weeks ago

Space support and multi account support and I'll install it. Fluffychat has many features but still laggy.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (2 children)

What's the difference between the normal app and element X? Why create a new app?

EDIT: I installed it, but can't verify for some reason.

EDIT: It works now, and it's very fast compared to the other client. It's a shame spaces aren't supported.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 weeks ago

Good ol' Rust Rewrite fixing everything.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 weeks ago

Normy here, I think it's a whole different framework which is faster and more reliable I think. Also the normal app technology outdated so maybe it's difficult to add new features to it.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

I’m still sad they stopped work on dendrite. P2P level decentralization, with E2EE, would be amazing.

These are still great improvements though. I'm hyped that loading seems to be so much faster.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 weeks ago

as I understand they may resume work on it, but they have so few human resources that they nedded to put a full stop to it for now

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

They didn't though? Source?

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 weeks ago

You still can't sign in to Element One on it.

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