It's probably the escalation of the genocide. If Israel were to stop committing genocide and move to reconcile and take actions to prevent it in thr future I'm pretty sure most of us would be open to reevaluating our position. Plenty of us like the modern Germany after all.
this post was submitted on 03 Jul 2025
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People still think the Democratic Party is a democratic institution lol
What I think is most unbelievable is that the Israelis actually think people are buying their BS excuses. They really need to take lessons from Trump who apparently can make millions believe the most ridiculous lies.
Israelis don't really care as long as people keep voting for the two parties which are in their pocket.
Isn't that what Netanyahu has being doing all along?
So all of a sudden
Maybe something happened that caused the shift? Hmm, what could it be?
Now that trump is implementing centrists' only policy for them, they have to pretend to dislike it.
Don't say it or you're an anti-semite. Shocking that opposing the murdering and starving of people is antisemitic.
Was right on the tip of my tongue, but can't quite come up with it. Something about a gen or side? Something like that I think.
genside? generation? genetics? idk
People finally realized the entrenched "democrats" aren't good people. They are poloticians just like the Republicans. We need a new party.
They are not "just like Republicans". Yes, they're corrupt, and it's important to realize that. But like, holy shit man one party is literal fascists, and the other isn't. That said, need labor party
Yes, they’re corrupt, and it’s important to realize that.
They're also, you know, actively genocidal.
Yeah, boy, wair for it: there're also a million less palestinians to sympathise with than there were 8 years ago. I think something is going on down there. Something very anti-semitic.
Israel is the world's largest and oldest concentration camp for Jews. The citizens are mostly trapped there. Someone like Netanyahu isn't living your average life of an Israeli citizen, either. It's not zero sum. They are all being enslaved and they are all in extreme danger, Palestine much more so and much more urgently as of right now, but the Israeli people are also in danger as well
The survey, conducted in March and published by Haaretz newspaper on Thursday, found that 82 percent of Israeli Jews support the forced expulsion of Palestinians from the Gaza Strip.
Meanwhile, 47 percent of Israeli Jews answered yes to the question: "Do you support the claim that the [Israeli army] in conquering an enemy city, should act in a manner similar to the way the Israelites did when they conquered Jericho under the leadership of Joshua, ie to kill all its inhabitants?" The reference is to the biblical account of the conquest of Jericho.
https://www.middleeasteye.net/news/majority-israelis-support-expulsion-palestinians-gaza-poll
Yeah, they live in a giant fascist concentration camp... it's like interviewing North Koreans. They can get hurt, beat up
Why do people move there, then? They have a democracy. I think it's more like living in the US where we elect our fascists. You don't see South Koreans clamoring to support NK nor immigrating there.
Plenty of Israelis do not support the war and want a quick resolution. Then there are the fascists and fanatics that have been displacing Palestinians and settling territory for years prior. Complex for sure, but a concentration camp it is not.
It’s only deep blue states, won’t impact the country by much. Not to say rest of country are evil, they just care about their own interests and enjoy Fox News.
That is evil when you are the only country that can stop this.
...when you're the country that is actually financing this. Take away US assistance, Israel would be a poverty stricken backwater.
Yeah, democrats while flawed, are disproportionately comprised of compassionate human beings, who can recognize the difference between self defense and murder. That's why Orange McFayg has been trying to demonize them and their 'beliefs'.
It's literally an attack on anyone who may show compassion, or inner reflection, remorse... You know human traits
McFayg?
Thank you for posting this.
The people are rousing and that at least is consoling in the midst of this ongoing genocide by the state of Israel.
What a point even mean in this context? Why not giving percentage of who sympatisze with palestinians
A 'point' is 1 person in 100. When they say that people sympathized with Israel 'by 13 points', they mean that 44% of people favored Palestine and 56% favored Israel. Why not just say "13 percent" then? Because 56/44 = 127%. 27% more people sympathize with Israel when their net support is 13 points.
When the margin is 43 points, it means 29-71 (minus undecideds). 71/29 = 245%, and I guarantee you will break people's brains if you tell them that 145% more people sympathize with Palestine than Israel.
percentage points. So additive math, compared to regular percents, which are multiplicative.
+14 pts israel means 57% in favor of israel vs 43% in favor of palestine (assuming you can't give other answers) That's the same thing as 33% more people in favor of israel.
+57 pts palestine means 78.5% in favor of palestine and 21.5% in favor of israel. That's the same thing as 265% more people in favor of palestine.
I would say that the most telling thing is that there hasn't been a similar shift among Republicsns.
Anyone who can look at what Israel has done and is doing to the Palestinians in Gaza, and increasingly in the West Bank, without being filled with horror, revulsion and pity is a monster.
Republicans are shitty people full stop.
Also look at what percentage of voters switched parties.
Fox News simply isn't covering the genocide. There's your explanation.
Committing genocide tends to turn the public against you.
And somehow that comment is antisemitic. Because the Nazis are Jewish now. I just want people to stop killing other people!
I just want people to stop killing other people!
hey, that's antisemitic! think of all the profits weapons companies could make, you're hurting them. what about their freedom?
I mean, there wasn't an incredibly well documented, active genocide happening 8 years ago.
That has a lot of sway on public opinion.
It was an open air prison poised for a genocide then. I’m glad people are realizing that the Israeli is as evil as anything and they shield it with a blanket of “antisemitism” to shut everyone up. That old chestnut no longer is working.
Did you drop an /s ?
Counterpoint: Iraq and Afghanistan
nonsensical whataboutism, find me contemporary sources calling either of those wars genocides or face my wrath
I became aware in the last 2-3 years of the nineties, but I was always drawn to places that discussed these things.
There was, in Palestine. In 2014, Israel murdered like 1,400 Palestinians. This is nowhere near new for Israel, it is SOP for 70 years. The difference is that social media platforms gave us a direct view that corporate media actively chooses to not show us, as you pointed to.
Reporting almost 60,000 killed in this current war. That’s over 40x as many. Not downplaying the 1,400 but let’s not pretend this isn’t a great escalation compared to the atrocities of the past
And likely much higher than that