But not all Windows apps can be run via Wine, at least some apps related to some tools Iβve had to use were not available
this post was submitted on 20 Sep 2024
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Then spin up Windows in a VM. It is painless and has unattended installation
Yup thatβs what I do
Edit to say that thereβs some mouse drivers which donβt work in a VM, at least from my experience but maybe I didnt try hard enough
Do the 3D mouses work?
True I wanted to run affinity I couldn't do it I apparently need a custom version of wine
Ya but they won't run in that app either I bet (like photoshop or 3dsmax).
Maybe, Iβd like to see if thereβs a difference, but youβre probably right
I thought this was dumb as fuck, but I think I understand what Microsoft is trying to do here.
What might not be obvious is that this "Windows" app is for iOS, Android and Linux - yes, it's a replacement for remote desktop but it's specifically a remote desktop app to connect to Windows machines.
So while I still this this rebranding is entirely unnecessary, I can see that they are trying to clearly distinguish "I'm not on windows and I need to do something on windows so I'll use the windows app for that" .
It also means less confusion when "remote desktop" doesn't let you connect to your Mac or whatever.
One year from now: web search "Windows App broken" and then starting cutting myself.
Something tells me the community forums will still refer to it as remote desktop or RDP anyway
I was like, this has to be fake. https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2024/09/microsoft-releases-a-new-windows-app-called-windows-app-for-running-windows-apps/
so by now even Microsoft acknowledges that it has lost the battle of making computing synonymous with Windows?
FOSS release of Windows when?
Imagine Microsoft decided to open source windows they would act like mozilla firefox management or smth
FOSS release of Windows when?
Can you imagine if that entire code got released tomorrow, without Microsoft selectively cleaning it up first?
I remember WinXP getting decompiled a while back and people thought it was pretty wild. Can you imagine Win8+?
Bet we'd find a few comments like
#Yes it's a massive security hole but don't ask questions. LOL
I think we'd still be shocked at how much data collection it does. And probably how "I don't know why it works but don't touch it." The code is. (It was written by people, after all)
I've always felt a lot of Windows' "dependability" is really just slick presentation and the mystique of a black box that sounds solid when you knock on it.
But what bothers me so much, as a non-career-coder and DIY-computing learner, is whenever a corporate product breaks, everything is obfuscated with nonsense that is only meant for a company engineer.
At least good FOSS tries to tell you exactly where the issue is.
If Windows went FOSS I bet it would get a lot of human-friendly fixes...and MS would get a lot of new scandals lol.
i read a blog post by a former MS employee who shed some light on the situation. apparently the windows dev team is entirely made up of junior developers. As soon as anybody gets any experience, either MS tries to promote them to management, or they leave to find a better job.
what that means is there is nobody at MS who has deep knowledge of the Windows kernel. So instead of re-writting, re-factoring or making additions, all they know how to do is add things on top of the existing OS.
I don't think this is strictly true. They do tweak parts of the kernel such as the CPU scheduler to deal with new CPU designs that come out which have special scheduling requirements. That's actually happened quite a bit recently with AMD and Intel both offering CPUs with asymmetric processors with big and little cores, different clock speeds, different cache, sometimes even different instructions on different cores. They also added ReFS not long ago, which may have required some kernel work.
I can understand though if they have few experienced people and way more junior devs. It would probably explain a lot to be honest. A lot of Microsoft stuff is bloated and/or unreliable.
Yo dawgβ¦
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Sounds awful lot like Citrix...
As I understood this is some remote running layer, while WINE is an emulator.
WIAE?
Oh dear cheddar, what does WINE stand for?
Wine's Independent New Energy
(best quality I could find)
Wine Is Not (an) Emulator
Hahaha
WINE is an emulator.
ΰ² _ΰ²
Wine Is Naturally an Emulator
Wine Is naturally Not an Emulator
WINE
Lol, that's a good one.
Wine Is Nothing but an Emulator
I hope its so they can finally end the legacy support for all the win98 software and end all "settings is actually a folder" non-sense.
Let me guess? CLOUD VMS? "Emulation" tries the most generic app: Doesnt work. Office apps will be the only functioning apps.
To be fair MS Office fully working on Linux is about the only thing we really need to make it completely viable for businesses.
The Desktop apps will be replaced with web apps ASAP anyway. Well, I think, as soon they think they have ported enough of the features to the web version.
Are there native arm versions, or are those already webViews?
The main problem is Excel, TBH. Far too much stuff depends on Windows-only features of Excel (e.g. macros using COM objects).
I think , if you need those features, it would be worth investing in proper solution anyway π€·π» But I see the fear of investing in that
I agree, but unfortunately our opinions don't move a gazillion finance bros
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