Uh, weren't these dipshits pissing and moaning about the rates being high?
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Which they would blame on Democrats. Any improvement under their opponents tenure has to be framed as a bad thing, lest voters notice something good happened with a Democrat in office.
Also it's something they can't promise to do because it was just done. Kinda like how the orange idiot had his Congressional bootlickers kill the immigration bill.
Making that promise inherently violates the independence of the federal reserve but I'm guessing none of Trump's knuckle dragging supporters know or care.
If he thinks that any positive change in an election year is election interference, then that would explain 2020. Maybe it is not that he wanted the pandemic or that he was too incompetent to just let experts help us. He was too concerned with election interference! /s
Remember when trump lashed out at FBI directory Comey when he produced a new piece of 'evidence' against Hilary in October of 2016, calling it 'election interference'?
... yeah me either.
Cloud passes in front of the sun, Trump calls 'election interference'
Trump drops his hamburger on the floor, calls 'election interference'
It's Thursday, Trump calls 'election interference'
A violent mob invading the Capitol, committing murder in the process, specifically to interrupt the certification of the election?
Not election interference.
There was a murder on Jan 6?
Edit: oh right, that woman. I don't really consider defending the Capitol from someone trying to breach an inner entrance murder.
A police officer was ~~beaten to death with an American flag.~~assaulted, pepper-sprayed, and had a stroke from the stress.
Officer Fanone, the person you're referencing that was beaten with a flagpole by Peter Stager, was not murdered. He's still alive. He was awarded the Presidential Citizens Medal just last year.
Your right. My mistake. The officer who died following the induction was Brian Sicknick, who was pepper sprayed and possibly struck on the head with a fire extinguisher, leading to lethal stress-induced strokes the next day.
You’re absolutely right that Officer Brian Sicknick’s passing was a tragic loss. However, it’s important to clarify that while there were initial reports suggesting he was struck with a fire extinguisher or affected by pepper spray, the medical examinations confirmed he died of natural causes, specifically strokes, with no evidence of injuries or an allergic reaction. While the events of January 6 were undoubtedly stressful, no specific physical actions from that day caused his death. I (and the medical professionals that examined him) would definitely not call that "murder."
If that's the standard for "murder" than the two Trump supporters that died of heart attacks during the insurrection, the Trump supporter that died of a drug overdose during the insurrection, and that Trump supporter that was shot to death during the insurrection were "murdered," which doesn't seem accurate to me at all.
My point was that no one was "murdered" during (or after) January 6. People died, but it was mostly preexisting medical issues or suicide. And the only people that died during/on the day of the insurrection were a part of the group of idiots that were participating in the insurrection in the first place.
I sort of do have this wish that they were all charged with felony murder for the woman being shot, you know, where if someone (whether innocent bystander or accomplice) dies during the commission of a felony, all the perps get charged as being the reason for the death.
Other medical professionals criticized him for his call. The stress and fear from being assaulted by the mob almost certainly triggered the strokes.
If you're allergic to shellfish and someone forcefeeds you shrimp and you die, they don't get to say you died of natural causes.
Not a great analogy. Being an officer assumes stress at work.
That doesn't mean people aren't responsible for the outcome of the assault.
If I kill a motorcyclist because I'm checking my phone it doesn't matter that they may have been fine if they'd been in a pickup.
You’re really reaching here. While the insurrection was undeniably horrific and the actions of that day despicable, no one was murdered. Trying to equate someone’s preexisting medical condition exacerbated by stress to “murder” is a wild leap. By this logic, every football player who dies of a genetic heart issue after exertion was "murdered" by the other players. The real issue isn’t inventing a murder where none exists—it’s that a mob stormed the Capitol, attempted to lynch the Vice President, and disrupt the democratic process. Your mental gymnastics to redefine the facts only distract from the gravity of what actually happened.
If your committing a felony and someone dies from the unintended consequences of that felony you can be charged with murder.
It's called the "felony murder rule" and people have been sentenced to death based on it.
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He's trying to destroy the meaning of the term just before him and his MAGA flying monkeys commit massive actual election interference.
He's panicking.
If the race is close, he can make a play to cause enough violence to reverse the result, like in 2000.
But if it's an embarrassing blowout? His fat ass is going to jail.
This isn't panic. Stealing power through sabotage and violence has been the plan for over four years. It's what all of MAGA's efforts have been put towards (cultivating fascist paramilitaries, corrupting the judiciary, infiltrating the elections bureaucracy with zealots, etc.). Hell, just look at Trump's campaigning: he's spent absolutely fuck-all effort trying to broaden his appeal to win more votes, but lots of effort trying to radicalize his base to coup for him.
He will make a play to seize power through violence, regardless of what the poll results are. That is his primary, intended, planned path to victory.
No, you're wrong.
He's a complete, delusional narcissist, he genuinely believes most of America loves him, it's just his enemies who cheat to win. This is true in every setting for him, business, legal, personal, everything.
He was sure he would win 2024 in a walk and blow Biden out of the water, and he's shocked a woman, a half n-word/half curry-head WOMAN of all people is threatening him!
You can't understand how he thinks, you have to have been raised by them, he is a devout follower of the religion of Donald J Trump.
I'm not wrong; I'm just describing a different aspect of the situation than you are. I'm explaining what he's doing, while you're explaining how he deludes himself into thinking he's justified for doing it.
You said his original plan was to use violence.
I'm saying his original plan was to not need violence, obviously he would win legitimately, he's Donald J Trump.
And if there's any chance his enemies will try to steal what's rightfully his (ie America), he will use as much violence as he can to make them forever regret it.
It's the opposite side of the coin of them taking credit for infrastructure improvements in their districts when they voted against that bill
They should've cut the rates six months ago :(
Republicans getting Mad when Good Things happen to the Working Class is PROOF that DEMOCRATS Hate the Working Class!
There's been a lot of discussion about an interest rate cut in September for the last 6 months.
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