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[–] [email protected] -2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

There was a murder on Jan 6?

Edit: oh right, that woman. I don't really consider defending the Capitol from someone trying to breach an inner entrance murder.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

A police officer was ~~beaten to death with an American flag.~~assaulted, pepper-sprayed, and had a stroke from the stress.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Officer Fanone, the person you're referencing that was beaten with a flagpole by Peter Stager, was not murdered. He's still alive. He was awarded the Presidential Citizens Medal just last year.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Your right. My mistake. The officer who died following the induction was Brian Sicknick, who was pepper sprayed and possibly struck on the head with a fire extinguisher, leading to lethal stress-induced strokes the next day.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

You’re absolutely right that Officer Brian Sicknick’s passing was a tragic loss. However, it’s important to clarify that while there were initial reports suggesting he was struck with a fire extinguisher or affected by pepper spray, the medical examinations confirmed he died of natural causes, specifically strokes, with no evidence of injuries or an allergic reaction. While the events of January 6 were undoubtedly stressful, no specific physical actions from that day caused his death. I (and the medical professionals that examined him) would definitely not call that "murder."

If that's the standard for "murder" than the two Trump supporters that died of heart attacks during the insurrection, the Trump supporter that died of a drug overdose during the insurrection, and that Trump supporter that was shot to death during the insurrection were "murdered," which doesn't seem accurate to me at all.

My point was that no one was "murdered" during (or after) January 6. People died, but it was mostly preexisting medical issues or suicide. And the only people that died during/on the day of the insurrection were a part of the group of idiots that were participating in the insurrection in the first place.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago

I sort of do have this wish that they were all charged with felony murder for the woman being shot, you know, where if someone (whether innocent bystander or accomplice) dies during the commission of a felony, all the perps get charged as being the reason for the death.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Other medical professionals criticized him for his call. The stress and fear from being assaulted by the mob almost certainly triggered the strokes.

If you're allergic to shellfish and someone forcefeeds you shrimp and you die, they don't get to say you died of natural causes.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Not a great analogy. Being an officer assumes stress at work.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

That doesn't mean people aren't responsible for the outcome of the assault.

If I kill a motorcyclist because I'm checking my phone it doesn't matter that they may have been fine if they'd been in a pickup.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

You’re really reaching here. While the insurrection was undeniably horrific and the actions of that day despicable, no one was murdered. Trying to equate someone’s preexisting medical condition exacerbated by stress to “murder” is a wild leap. By this logic, every football player who dies of a genetic heart issue after exertion was "murdered" by the other players. The real issue isn’t inventing a murder where none exists—it’s that a mob stormed the Capitol, attempted to lynch the Vice President, and disrupt the democratic process. Your mental gymnastics to redefine the facts only distract from the gravity of what actually happened.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

If your committing a felony and someone dies from the unintended consequences of that felony you can be charged with murder.

It's called the "felony murder rule" and people have been sentenced to death based on it.