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[–] [email protected] 5 points 6 months ago (4 children)

Absolutely love organic maps for cycling! It recommendeds sensible routes that are much safer. The only feature I miss (and I know organic maps strives for 100% feature completeness even offline so this would be unlikely to be added) is navigation using public transit in the UK. The national rail app is painfully slow and isn't easy to just search a location and just go, but it does work. Every bus company has their own app too... I haven't found a good replacement yet unfortunately :/

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Magic Earth (while not FOSS, it's privacy oriented though) can do this.

There's also Transportr, but AFAIK it's been unmaintained for quite a while now, so it may not work / stop working soon.

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 6 months ago (5 children)

I didn't know about Organic-Maps. I used Osmand, which has a subscription fee for downloading maps.

Thx!

[–] [email protected] 11 points 6 months ago (2 children)

I didn't have to pay for it, installed from F-Droid, and I can download any map I've tried so far. When I'm traveling I like to pre-download the standard map for the whole state if it's one I don't already have installed. It's nice to not have to worry about data / reception.

Overall OsmAnd is a pretty good GPS-map-navigation app, but has several annoyances and bugs. Still better than using Google's app to me. I need to check out Organic maps too

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Osmand saved my ass multiple times hiking in very remote locations. Absolutely worth the subscription!

[–] [email protected] 10 points 6 months ago

Anything that keeps maps in local storage so you can use GPS while offline is somewhere between very helpful and lifesaving. Sounds like Osmand is in there.

Organic Maps lets you download also. I got it specifically for backpacking because it enabled that. It certainly has been worth the $0. I should probably donate something each trip.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Definetly one of the subscriptions I don't regret as much as others but still a steep cost for my frequency of usage. I need it approx 6 weeks per year and only as backup when traveling/hiking.

A free alternative (simply Osm) is much appreciated.

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[–] [email protected] 27 points 6 months ago (6 children)

Organic Maps is available on F-Droid.

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[–] [email protected] 133 points 6 months ago (21 children)

the biggest problem I have with switching is that Google Maps is a business directory. open street maps is empty where i live. it works okay for navigation, but not so much for finding a coffee.

[–] [email protected] 32 points 6 months ago (3 children)

You can contribute them!

There's a pretty barebones editor in Organic Maps, but you can also check out Street Complete and Every door (more advanced and less user friendly, though insanely efficient)

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 months ago (10 children)

i think openstreetmaps only works in big countries honestly

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 6 months ago (1 children)

That kind of contribution seems like a lower level of effort than making changes to source code.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 6 months ago

I keep businesses in my area up-to-date, doesn't take much time at all.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Same issue here. I really like their maps in general, but my local area in OSM is about a decade out of date

[–] [email protected] 13 points 6 months ago

Yeah, it's interesting to look through the edit history over the years. With StreetComplete I recently fixed ~8 stores that were many years out of date, during an hour walk.

It's fun to find a real hole-in-the-wall that even google maps doesn't have.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Yeah trying to find anything on any of the competing apps is basically impossible. I mean ffs OSMand literally couldn't do address lookup!

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 months ago

I just recently learned this.

For OsmAnd, go to search, then the categories tab, and then hit "Online Search".

Voila, address lookup.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I have found Organic Map's search to be far better than OSMand. OSMand has far more features though.

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[–] [email protected] 48 points 6 months ago (3 children)
[–] [email protected] 17 points 6 months ago (3 children)

It says “page not found”, maybe because I'm not in EU.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I'm in the US, also says page not found for me.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Yea looks like they were linking to this: Street Complete

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 6 months ago (5 children)

Might I recommend Magic Earth?

Organic maps is great, but the search is really finnicky.

Magic Earth has amazing UI, search, it can acts as a dashcam as you travel and that video can pinpoint your place on the map. I'm loving it.

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Organic maps is great and I wish I could use it more. I commute in a city and traffic data is very important to me when it comes to route planning. It can be the difference between an hour commute and a 15min commute. Due to this, I'm pulled back to using google maps as my default.

Is it not possible to anonymize traffic data so that it can be made available in google maps? I'd gladly contribute a bit of data in order to improve this app. I'd even pay a bit of money for a pro version.

Great app all the same.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

Does the app have:

  • Location sharing
  • Live traffic updates
  • Public transportation

Missing one of these is a deal breaker.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 6 months ago (1 children)
  1. Yes, you can share location, the widgets aren't as fancy as Google integration with everything.

  2. Not feasible without the constant data harvesting in the background, which it doesn't do. It doesn't log your every move as Google does. Privacy vs surveillance, will always be at odds.

  3. Depending on the area. In my country public transportation is way better on OSM than on Gmaps. Oftentimes Gmaps won't even have large structures like train stations or bus terminals. It depends on users and contributors.

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[–] [email protected] 45 points 6 months ago (2 children)

OrganicMaps is amazing. Strong recommend to everyone. I only recently found out about it.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 6 months ago (6 children)

Any details on why it's amazing? What does it do or doesn't?

[–] [email protected] 43 points 6 months ago (4 children)
  • It has the map corpus from OpenStreetMap, so one of the best in the world
  • It works offline - just download the desired maps onto the device
  • That makes it really, really fast. Google Maps is slower
  • You can also use it in areas with bad reception. I'm using it for hiking in the woods where there is no cell phone connection available
  • I really like the UI - they are f.e. better at displaying house numbers and street names than Google.
  • No ads
[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Google's maps are decent and can also be downloaded to be offline...? But yeah, it seems like it's a nice alternative, especially if you want to be free from Google's grips.

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 6 months ago (1 children)

On the hiking note, it also shows a lot of trails. I used it to navigate to a trail head and was pleasantly surprised to see a rough outline of the trails I would be using plus some others I didn't know were there.

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Same, I have recently installed LineageOS on my phone and was looking for various replacements for Goggle apps. What I really like about OrganicMaps is that it downloads the maps locally, so you can view it even if you aren't connected to the internet.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 months ago (4 children)

google maps can do that too though

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago

The feature looks made ugly on purpose though (compared to organic maps where you can just download the whole country or select more precisely what you want)

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Google maps is the last vestige of Google that I use. I was never a Google search user and I only use Gmail for 'official' stuff.

So yeah, I want this to work.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 months ago

I left GoogleMaps a while ago, it worked fine for me. The only part of Google I can't leave is Play Store. Aurora might be the best alternative there.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 6 months ago (1 children)

These posts are motivating

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[–] [email protected] 58 points 6 months ago (4 children)

You seem pretty active with OSM, so I'll propose this here since I don't have time to make it.

OSM is very, very popular with hikers and cyclists, and I'd argue rhey drive a lot of it's use, especially via third-party systems. However, it's one failing is "gravel" roads. While they support many different gravel road types, they admit on their Wiki that use of the proper terms is low.

Given the heavy use of Garmin devices, especially among gravel cyclists, mountain bikers, and bikepackers, where terrain definition is important, it would be outstanding to have an app in the Garmin store for Edge devices that could report the exact terrain type (compacted, dirt, etc) with a button mash as you ride it.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Check out StreetComplete (https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=de.westnordost.streetcomplete)

It does more than just road surface type, and incorporates location-based OSM editing in a very user-friendly way!

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago (3 children)

Yea, I've used that, but it's a phone app. Riders need a one-touch solution on Garmin (or other bike computers, but Garmin dominates the market right now).

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 6 months ago

I will add as a narrowboater.

I found towpaths also have this issue with definition of surface.

I am legally blind. (Some vision but bad)

I have a few times tried to add more ditail to areas of towpath that will help the others like me know what to expect before mooring.

Seems anything that improves this will help in your issues as well.

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