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[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

That was the Framers' intention. It was not for a hunting permit. Do you have a better idea about how to enforce the self-preservation of liberty and freedom from tyranny when the tyrannical government is armed and disposed to use force against a subjugated population? How would you prevent another King George? Say you don't like Trump and he has all the top guns as the next POTUS and decided to declare a military dictatorship? Sure, they have the most powerful weapons but lawyers aren't going to help. Wouldn't you rather fight for freedom than lay down and die in the camps?

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 month ago

Or more commonly adopted nowadays, drones that will hit you while you're driving, or having a party

Take a wild guess why Taliban and Hamas love caves and underground networks

[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (3 children)

Military spending in 2023 (in billions of US dollars):

United States: 916
China: 296
Russia: 109
India: 83.6
People who own a "don't tread on me" flag: 0*

(* Rounded to nearest significant figure)

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

I don't feel like Russia got a hundred billion dollars worth of military out of the hundred billion dollars they spent

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 month ago

Eh, Americans spend something like $10-20B per year on guns and ammo. That's nowhere near the military budget, but it's still a lot of guns and ammo, so the US would put up a pretty good guerrilla resistance.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Alright, so here me out. We need guns to protect ourselves from the Chinese government. What do you say about that? Just saved you $620B

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I sure hope those 2nd amendment fanatics can afford the naval vessels and foreign military bases they're going to need to get involved in the South China Sea! 💸

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)
[–] [email protected] 29 points 1 month ago

Governments are overthrown when the police and military refuse orders, not when they're outgunned.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

It'll be a whole different thing for the government to send military against the population. An armed population should be plenty to keep the cops respectful, and cops are the real problem.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Making them shoot an unarmed group of protesters is much harder than making them shoot an armed one.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Lol, well they had no problems seriously wounding the unarmed BLM protesters by shooting them with “rubber” bullets.

They wouldn’t touch the right wingnuts showed up at protests with guns.

They also wouldn’t touch an armed group distributing food to homeless and needy

They didn’t touch the Bundy’s when they took over the wildlife refuge offices in an armed standoff.

So cops are fine shooting at unarmed people, but if they’re going to face well armed threats they play nice.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago

Yep. Doesn't even have to be a group of armed people doing "maybe illegal" things. It can be a single person doing absolutely illegal and horrific things...like Uvalde.

[–] [email protected] 34 points 1 month ago (2 children)

This shows ignorance in history but also understanding of warfare. There are too many examples of this: Vietnam as a historical example and Afghanistan as a recent one. Let's not forget what's going on in Israel rn vs all the proxies. It's not necessary to have advanced weaponry to fight a war.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 month ago

Vietnam as a historical example and Afghanistan as a recent one.

The biggest asset these countries had in their favor was distance from the American industrial core. First Nations people employed many of the same techniques used in Vietnam and Afghanistan but were ruthlessly slaughtered. Guerrilla movements in Latin America - the FARK in Columbia and socialists in Guatemala, Honduras, and El Salvador got massacred by American military power. These countries are wholly within the US sphere of influence now.

Let’s not forget what’s going on in Israel rn vs all the proxies.

Israel is a textbook case of advanced weaponry tilting the playing field. Air superiority, naval support from the US, and a high tech anti-missile/anti-personal system along with one of the most advanced spy networks in the world all allow this relatively tiny nation to punch far outside its weight class. By contrast, less developed countries like Egypt, Iraq, Libya, and Sudan routinely serve as punching bags for more advanced states.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Vietnam had field artillery and Soviet fighter jets. They were a real army.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Sure, but a large portion of their fighting against the French and Americans was through guerilla warfare and tactics.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago

Yeah, and the only reason they won is because it was a logistical nightmare for the country on the other side of the world.

That wouldn't be the case for a civil war. They have all their army equipment right there.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago

No one said you wouldn't die lmao this ain't call of duty.

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