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[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 months ago (9 children)

People change. The old stereotype is that people tend to be very liberal in high school and college but become very conservative with a mortgage and a couple of kids. I don’t know how often that actually plays out but it makes sense.

When you don’t have anything it’s easy to demand a lot of things from the government. When you have money you want to do everything you can to hold onto it and that means not paying taxes. It flips around again when people are super rich though: then they don’t mind paying taxes (because their effective tax rate is very low). It’s the middle class who get screwed the most.

[–] [email protected] 45 points 2 months ago (10 children)

My dad, after a discussion in my young adult years turned political: "if you're not a liberal when you're young, you don't have a heart. If you're not conservative when you're an adult, you don't have a brain."

Well, dad, I have made it to adulthood with brilliant children and great relationships with them to boot. I'm still a screaming liberal and you're still a racist that is gargling the balls of a wannabe dictator.

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[–] [email protected] 19 points 2 months ago (2 children)

A maga version would be nice.

No sex with magas!

[–] [email protected] 18 points 2 months ago (1 children)

On the contrary, during World War II, French prostitutes would purposely spread venereal disease to nazis. They would also get nazis hooked on heroin.

Unfortunately, MAGAs tend to already have both those issues.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

it's a shame Matt Taibbi sold out after modeling for this

[–] [email protected] 78 points 2 months ago (3 children)

Why would you marry someone that votes to make you a second class citizen?

[–] [email protected] 40 points 2 months ago (5 children)

Some people have been married for longer than republicans have been open fascists.

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[–] [email protected] 27 points 2 months ago

Why would someone vote for themselves to be a second class citizen?

I dunno.

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[–] [email protected] 45 points 2 months ago (2 children)

I think Trump is pissed about Taylor Swift, because all his young, Rogan listening, meathead voters are probably being pressured by their Swifty girlfriends into ditching Trump.

[–] [email protected] 32 points 2 months ago (3 children)

unfortunately most of them don't have girlfriends. some of them never did. the party is relying on incels and divorced dads.

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 months ago

One could hope

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago
[–] [email protected] 191 points 2 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 65 points 2 months ago (3 children)

Already illegal in Missouri for pregnant women to divorce their spouse

[–] [email protected] 25 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

Not really, but it's more about child custody and child support if already married.

https://www.factcheck.org/2024/03/posts-distort-missouri-divorce-law-regarding-pregnancy/

Nowhere in Missouri law does it say pregnant women are barred from getting divorced.

But a judge handling a case where one party is pregnant may wait to finalize that divorce until the baby is born, which, experts told us, is done in order to consolidate custody and child-support agreements with other end-of-marriage arrangements.

This can happen in other states, too.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 2 months ago

Still dangerous because the husband is empowered to make medical decisions in certain cases

[–] [email protected] 13 points 2 months ago

Holy shit. That's some dystopian nightmare

[–] [email protected] 45 points 2 months ago

Actually? That's so disgusting

[–] [email protected] 40 points 2 months ago (3 children)

Hm I wonder what the divorce rate is like when broken down along political views

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 months ago

There's statistics about voting rates amongst single, married and divorced women in the USA. Married women are the most conservative mostly due to age skew) followed by the other two. I can't remember if single or divorced leans more liberal but there's a big gap

[–] [email protected] 21 points 2 months ago

I don't know what conclusion that would give. That they jump into marriage faster? That they're willing to leave a bad situation?

I don't think low divorce rates necessarily correlates to happier people.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 2 months ago

Depends on whether the study is from places likely to be subject to bias like the “conservative” group institute for family values that claims county level polling shows more democrats get divorced (despite conceding the accuracy of state level polling?), or more normal groups that have shown for a decade plus now that red states have higher divorce rates. Top five are:

  1. Nevada
  2. Oklahoma
  3. Wyoming
  4. Alabama
  5. Arkansas
[–] [email protected] 19 points 2 months ago (1 children)

What a great time to be on the market 😄

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[–] [email protected] 27 points 2 months ago

Not just a concept

[–] [email protected] 56 points 2 months ago (5 children)

Why marry a turd in the first place? 🤷

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago

Because not everyone makes their political alignment their entire personality.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I've dated conservative women a few times, they definitely said things like "I don't let that come into my relationships" and that never ended up being the fact. And goddamn it they all were REALLY into D/s dynamics. Albeit that's a quality I typically find in a partner, but tbh they kinda excelled at playing the role phew.

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[–] [email protected] 33 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (2 children)

I personality know two very liberal women who married right wing nutjobs, the first one married a full MAGA, proud boys type militia and election denier guy who she thought she could change him (she couldn't).

The other one thought that political differences didn't matter in a romantic relationship (it did).

Both ended up in divorce.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 months ago

Any of those topics that people who care more about society being polite than just tell you to avoid are ones that should be not just discussed but agreed on before making a relationship legally binding. Religion, money, politics. They are each too serious for "agree to disagree" to last long.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

she thought she could change him

Has this ever worked?! Like a single time in the history of our species?

Edit: I asked the High Council for Female Affairs (my girlfriend) about the why and her answer is - summarized: At the beginning of a relationship you see things you like and things you don’t like. Some try to quell the bad things and enhance the good things. The emotionally immature ones believe in “a perfect relationship” and actively try to form their partners instead of looking for someone who has less of those bad qualities. They tend to fail spectacularly.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 2 months ago

My stepmom lived in one of the most liberal towns in Massachusetts, running a Montessori program before she and my Fox News watching dad got married. (We never actually talked about politics because they “had an agreement,” but I have to assume she was very liberal- probably not very left though)

She started voting republican after a few years :(

[–] [email protected] 33 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (4 children)

I tend to believe people don't really change but they do tend to show their true colors eventually. However, some of us are not a great judge of character.

Life is also complicated and messy.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 months ago

I tend to believe people don’t really change but they do tend to show their true colors eventually.

A drunk action is a sober thought.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Some of my best friends acted liberal until they hit 30 and suddenly they were Uber conservative. I'm less concerned with if they were really liberal before and more concerned with what they're okay with now. No longer friends with any of them because these are basic morality concerns

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[–] [email protected] 33 points 2 months ago (2 children)

I disagree. Some people do change. Learn new things, car accidents change your life, cancer changes your life, new job, ...

The only thing constant is change.

[–] [email protected] 31 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Can confirm. I was a hard right conservative during Obama.

Life happens and now I'm an anti-capitalist pro-union progressive.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 2 months ago

Congratulations on your positive change :)

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[–] [email protected] 36 points 2 months ago

Alternatively, both Republican, and she changed for the better for herself.

[–] [email protected] 84 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Things happen. Stuff. Reasons.

[–] [email protected] 65 points 2 months ago (2 children)

People also change, and someone may over the long haul become something you didn't really expect out of them.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 2 months ago (1 children)

This was my dad. He was always right leaning but then Trump came along and he went die hard political full on Trumpet.

He's one of the smartest people I know and watching him get more involved and more and more angry was terrifying.

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[–] [email protected] 28 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Anyone who knows friends or family that fell down the magat hole understand this

[–] [email protected] 16 points 2 months ago

This.There exists a pipeline from somewhere on the left to the alt right. It is dangerous to think otherwise.

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