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Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez recently made headlines for calling perennial Green Party presidential candidate Jill Stein “predatory” and “not serious.” AOC is right.

Giving voters more choices is a good thing for democracy. But third-party politics isn’t performance art. It’s hard work — which Stein is not doing. As AOC observed: “[When] all you do is show up once every four years to speak to people who are justifiably pissed off, but you're just showing up once every four years to do that, you're not serious.”

To be clear: AOC was not critiquing third parties as a whole, or the idea that we need more choices in our democracy. In fact, AOC specifically cited the Working Families Party as an example of an effective third party. The organization I lead, MoveOn, supports their 365-day-a-year efforts to build power for a pro-voter, multi-party system. And I understand third parties’ power to activate voters hungry for alternatives: I myself volunteered for Ralph Nader in 2000, and that experience helped shape my lifelong commitment to people-first politics.


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[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Even if Jill was elected, all she has is ablism and transphobia

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago (4 children)

One thing i have come to realize about most politically active people is that facts dont matter enough to affect a vote.

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[–] [email protected] 27 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

It's pretty much completely impossible for a third party candidate to ever win. You have to get 270 (just over half) of all the electoral votes. If any third party made a huge amount of headway it'd still be almost impossible to take enough votes from the repubs or democrats to hit 270, and anything less than 270 means the House gets to decide who becomes president. Obviously, the house filled with democrats and Republicans, would never select the third party candidate.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 2 months ago (1 children)

They dont have to win, just steal enough votes from one of the other parties to affect the election

[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 months ago

Correct. I'm pointing out the complete futility of anything other than that.

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