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The hammer is effectively immovable by sentient beings. IIRC, if Thor left it on a elevator it'd still go up and down, unless it was a magic talking one. Edit: Note sentient and living. Vision could lift it in the movie. He's not alive so no powers though.
Magneto can move the hammer with his omega level mutant magnetism powers. He isn't worthy though, so no Thor powers. Hulk has also moved it, with raw strength. He similarly wasn't worthy.
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Iirc he could but he couldn't wield the power of Thor
That actually gets around my questions above nicely. Moving Mjølnir ≠ using Mjølnir. If the hammer can be moved by natural forces, it's just a chunk of metal - it won't have the devastating impact it does when Thor throws it.
And I guess if Thor woke up and called the hammer back, it'd go regardless of natural forces acting on it.
Im pretty sure there have been times thors hammer has not come because something was holding it back. I don't think the call overrides physical effects on it but it has to be able to overcome its relative power.
Ah, I didn't know there have been things that prevented the call from working (aside from the whole fall from grace storyline). I guess that's why I stopped reading comics. No consistency 😂
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How do we know Thor's hammer is made out of metal?
Uru is a metal ore from the first moon in existence, and has existed since the beginning of the universe, being said to be rubble from the rock of creation and the strongest substance in all the realms. It is purportedly unique to Nidavellir, one of the Ten Worlds. It resembles stone, but it also appears to have metallic properties.
According to the comics, Thor’s hammer only weighs 42.3 lbs. (19.1 kg). Odin’s enchantment prevents anyone who is not worthy from lifting it. It’s a question of Magneto’s purity of heart, not strength of power.
Edit: I think I found a good answer below. Even if natural forces could lift Mjølnir, the enchantment would not be in effect - getting beaned by a 40-something pound chunk of metal would still hurt, but it wouldn't hit as hard as it does when Thor uses it.
~~Ah, but Magneto's not the one lifting the hammer - he's directing magnetic fields that are doing the lifting!~~
~~So, could the wind pick up Thor's hammer, if it were strong enough? How about changes in gravity - is Mjølnir as hard to pick up on the moon as at the surface of the Arctic ocean (Earth's highest-gravity location, I couldn't find coordinates)?~~
~~If so, then I ask: is the magic of the hammer smart enough to know the difference between a primal force and a primal force that's doing someone a favour?~~
Well, it's magic vs science. The enchantment makes it unliftable by purity of heart. If I remember right, technically Ultron and Vision could lift it.
Edit: found the comics did answer it - yes he can manipulate it using E&M fields but he wouldn't get any of the power from it.
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Magneto is a mutant who can manipulate magnetic fields.
Thor is a god.
If Magneto could move Thor's hammer, anyone with a magnet could.
anyone with a magnet or forklift or such can move the hammer.
Or an elevator, if the elevator is worthy.
He doesn't physically pick up the hammer in the comics. He uses his magnetic abilities to get around the weight and worthiness issue.
Fucking cheater.
So, he just had more power than the enchantment.
Guess ~~Zeus~~ Odin should have gotten the master enchanter to do the job properly instead of hastily whispering some words into the hammer.
Fixed it because ppl were getting confused
Zeus
Odin
Oh shit! I forgot who is who
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It's Sunday morning. Plenty of time to debate this important matter.
EDIT: The answer is yes.
What's the mythical-scientific reason for Thors hammer being immovable? Very high mass/density or protected by some invisible godlike force?
Protected by a literal god but I have no idea why it wasn’t movable after oden died.
Enchantments are a one-off thingy. They don't require the enchanter to stay alive.
Otherwise, buying an enchanted sword from someone would mean, you would have to depend upon that person not getting killed by some random robber, when you are in the middle of battling the dungeon boss.
In the movies, it's a worthiness/ pure heart thing. In the comics it's just really heavy. I guess the question is, is magic space metal ferrous enough to be magnetic?
I think Magneto can control nonferrous metals, too.
It has always bothered me that he used super strength magnetic fields to manipulate non-magnetic metals. yes, that is the thing in the xmen universe that breaks reality for me, everything else is fine
That is realistic though, he just needs to move the magnetic field to induce a current in them. He should be able to affect any conductor.
Does this mean he might also have limited water powers in regions where the ratio of metallic solids in the water is above a certain threshold? Kinda like the "metal in your blood" scene in that one X-Men movie.
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Pretty much both.
Stormbreaker is completely different metal with no such restrictions placed on it, so anyone can pick it up.
After captain america picked up Mjølner, he then turned water into wine and came back to life three days after dying.
Captain America and Mjølner were in the closet making babies and I saw one of the babies and the baby looked at me!
Baby looked at you?
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I miss this version of Donald Duck, his anger kinda made sense, he was tired, overworked and everyone around him were idiots, something I can deeply relate to.
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I know what I'm about.
So you argue on the internet about comics instead of working? Are you bragging? I am jealous.
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