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The original was posted on /r/linustechtips by /u/RevolutionaryAd8204 on 2024-09-14 15:50:43+00:00.

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 months ago (10 children)

If I'm playing modern games on a TV? PS5 easy. But still the pro over the deck.

I love my deck. As the handheld it's intended to be. It's not powerful enough for an acceptable experience running a AAA 3D game on a TV screen. You can ignore the resolution and artifacts and just generally low visual quality and poor frame rate on a small screen, because playing the games portably at all is a huge step up. You can't ignore any part of it on a TV. It's fine for indie games, older games, 2D stuff, etc.

But it doesn't have the performance for a good living room experience if you're looking to play modern AAA games. (Ignoring all their bullshit rootkits on PC that block a lot of multiplayer games out completely, which are the games you have to pay for on PS. You just can't play most of them on Linux at all.)

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 months ago (3 children)

Now that the Steam Deck and linux gaming has found some success I really hope Valve or someone else revisits the home console market with a similar approach.

You couldn't really build a PC for the same price as a PS5 with the same performance unless you're buying used parts in most places but that's not because Sony is selling consoles at a loss right now like the olden days. A large system integrator like Valve (or xbox if they want to change their formula) could offer similar perf/price without all the downsides of these locked down consoles.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Honestly I think the trick for valve there would just be to release a build of steam OS people can install themselves into desktops (if they don't already) and just have folks building their own machine for TV pc use.

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 months ago

Since buying a steam deck I've spent more money on games I can play on it than I would normally for the pc.

That's still cheaper than buying a ps5 on its own without the extra cost of games.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 months ago (3 children)

PS5 Pro - only marginally better than an option that's only $450.

Steam Deck OLED - only marginally better than an option that's only $300.

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 months ago

The difference is that Steam Deck is actually cheap compared to what the competition does. It's also the first generation of Steam Deck and the upgrade with an OLED (and lot of other stuff too) is actually substantial. And there are multiple versions of the Deck available to choose less drive space. Imagine this was an option on PS5 Professional too. Contrary, the PS5 Professional is the most expensive console compared to its competition. It's so expensive, that it set a new bar.

That's the opposite of what Steam Deck does. Steam Deck is the only current generation game console that gets cheaper over time. Also one is a handheld format, which is hard to make cheap, especially because its compatible to PC hardware (and software).

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (9 children)

If you think $700 is bad, it's £700 in the UK... which is $913. 🤢

Also:

  • median household income, UK (2022): £32,400 ($42,265)

  • median household income, USA (2022): $74,580

A PS5 Pro is 26% of the typical UK household monthly income.

A PS5 Pro is 11% of the typical US household monthly income.

The US pricing is bad. The UK pricing is absolutely insane.

The OLED Deck starts at £479. Still a lot but not as egregious. The LCD Deck is currently £262 ($344), which is pretty great.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Anyone know the cost in the US including tax? Don't they leave that off?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 months ago

The US doesn't have a national sales tax, so it depends whether the individual state imposes a tax or not.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 months ago (7 children)

It varies state by state, some like Oregon have 0% tax, but most will be around 13% or so iirc.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 months ago (9 children)

how does this work if you live close to another state? As in if you live in a state with sales tax but down the road is a state without sales tax- why ever shop in your state?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Convenience. Unless you live right near the border, it's probably faster/easier to shop in your own state than drive all the way to another.

But if you do live near the border of a state without a sales tax, then it's pretty common to shop in the neighboring state, especially for larger purchases.

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 months ago

No sales tax in NH either.

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (5 children)

I'm not sure if it's the meme but here (Europe) there is a huge difference in price between the basic 512GB OLED SD and the basic PS5 pro option.

569€ vs 800€.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

... and you have to pay for PS Plus repetitively to play games with friends.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 months ago

Jokes on you I don't have any friends

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 months ago (6 children)

Yeah, but can any of those play the saves I already have on my computer??

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (3 children)

Only issue you'll probably have is if the cloud saves are for a different OS, so if you're playing on Windows make sure it's the Proton version of the game that's installed on the Deck, if you're playing a native Linux version of the game on your PC then make sure it's the native Linux version that's installed on the Deck (usual defaults to the Proton version).

It's just an issue with the cloud save feature being too dumb, the path to the save folder isn't the same on both platforms so it doesn't sync well (although I think it does on some games).

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 months ago

As others already stated, its possible, provided the game itself is compatible with Steam Deck. While there is the Steam Cloud that saves and loads saves automatically (which does not cost you anything BTW), some games do not support the Cloud. As this is PC basically where you have access to the filesystem, you can copy files over. Only thing that is a problem is, that Steam Deck will not get recognized as a drive if you plug it to USB connection. That's a whole other story, but to answer your question, yes.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 months ago

Um... Yeah? You about Steam Cloud, right?

Besides that, if it's a none-Steam game you could just... Transfer the same file to the Deck. Did with a couple of games through Google Drive.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 months ago

Either through Steam Cloud as others have already said, or something like Ludosavi.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 months ago

Yes, the Steam Deck can use saves you have in the Steam cloud. You can also probably manually copy the files over.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 months ago

The Steam saves, yes, the Steam deck would play them just fine.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

*squints* Sir, that is an LCD model you have there.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 months ago (3 children)

Not to mention that you can buy the previous version for 300 € and get most of the same value (less storage, gpu, screen, battery)

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 months ago (2 children)

You can also upgrade the storage and screen if you want.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 months ago (2 children)

You cannot put an OLED screen in an LCD model.

They have different internals. The screen upgrades that exist for the LVD are to swap in the anit-glare coated version, or a higher resolution.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Ah, I didn't realise that. But I mostly use my Steamdeck docked for gaming on my TV so personally haven't bothered looking into a screen upgrade.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 months ago

It's probably not worth the effort. It's one of the more complex mods, and the screen with additional resolution comes with a bunch of drawbacks, and the anti-glare coating isn't that big a deal.

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 months ago

I bought 512GB OLED and then immediately swapped the SSD to 2 Tb

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