Harris sounds nervous and needs water. She's hiding it pretty well, but she also gets that kind of pursed, constricted voice when she's nervous. I hope she smooths and gets comfortable. She seems much more prepared but much more automated than Trump. She can't sound like she's on the stump. She's got to take some swings that don't sound like a recording.
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Finally! A moderator who fucking FOLLOWS UP!
Kind of, but he let Trump completely slide on that tariff non-answer.
He fell for the Wharton reference. She’s doing fantastic so far.
Trump’s Wharton professor repeatedly called him ‘the dumbest goddamn student I ever had’.
Kamala talking about Wharton and Nobel prize winners and Goldman Sachs. Idiot voters will just hear “elites”. You can’t use facts or science with people who are going to vote trump.
I’ve already lost count of trump’s lies, and we’re not even 10 minutes in.
It's amazing how glibly he does it. Almost impressive. Almost.
If his lips are moving...
Trump just accidentally admitted he thinks there is "some good" in Project 2025.
Trump monotone-ing about insane asylums being emptied into the country.
@[email protected] can you set the sort by New for this thread?
The creator of a post cannot choose the default sort for the viewers.
She's definitely going to get the chance to question if Trump knows what a tariff is.
Ooh. Tariffs right of the bat. Here we go.
Trump sales tax!
I just hope they both have a lot of fun!
He wasn't going to shake her hand, lol.
That handshake was awkward
Trump looked like he wanted to avoid it altogether.
Hard shaking hands with someone who has so much smaller hands. ;)
Doesn’t he look tired?
He does
Harris needs to stage whisper “small hands, tiny baby hands” while her mic is muted.
MSNBC coverage now streaming on YouTube:
https://www.youtube.com/live/q0pQ5NwciBo?si=yGy9XArDnXNgRYGv
Here we go!
ABC is really milking the opportunity during the pre-show to push its news division, and to show commercials for all of their TV shows. It’s like an hour long infomercial.
Which stream/TV source is everyone watching?
My plan is to just pull up MSNBC on Sling.
I'm listening to CNN on Sirius, have ABC News stream up, Breaking Points stream audio on, and Waltz stream closed captions. Too much? Hah
Harris really, really needs to nail Trump on blocking the bipartisan immigration bill. Speaker Johnson was on board until Trump intervened for the sole purpose of running on the issue.
This is the time that people who don’t follow politics and don’t know that are paying attention.
It wasn't even that he wanted to run on the issue, he wanted to prevent the Democrats from having a "win".
45 minutes. I do like the fact that the MSNBC hosts are acknowledging just how stupid the modern "debate" is.
And the hypocrisy/asymmetry of the media coverage. O’Donnell nailed it. It’s infuriating.
One thing I'm trying to be mentally prepared for: Trump doing reasonably well. He's not a good debater, and he's not even going to debate, he's going to try to put on a show. But while the man has very few actual skills, brainless spectacle is one of them. So I'm trying to be prepared for that.
I think the time limits will work in his favor, he won't have the time to ramble and go off the rails.
That's definitely a concern.
I don't think there's any doubt that Harris herself will do well, I just think it's a good idea to recognize that the format does indeed play to Trump's strengths and puts band-aids over his (very deep) deficiencies.