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Is linux actually gaming ready or is it just not for me? (sh.itjust.works)
submitted 2 months ago by [email protected] to c/[email protected]
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Ill keep it as short as possible, apologies if i keep rambling(ill put my specs at the bottom)

Over the last yew years, i have used quite a lot of distros, from mint (currently my main again), to manjaro to solus to endeavouros and more i cant remember, one thing they all (minus solus) had in commong (for me) was the fact that pc gaming...was horrible on them.

Many hours where spend getting different games to work, or rather trying to get them to work at all, most of them had failed, steam, lutris, default wine, no matter what has been used)

As an example:

Anno 1404 history edition (best anno, fite me), i bought it on steam, tried launching it, didnt work, tried several proton versions, didnt work, lutris, didnt work, i downloaded a crack to see, didnt work either, using a different file format, nothing.

Sometimes i was able to make it work, once and than never again, solus was the only one where anno 1404 worked out of the box, i managed to make it work in endeavouros once by installing two packages i could never find again. (most recently, i bought space marine 2, didnt work and keeps crashing no matter what i do9

But this was the best case scenario, games really work.

Is it just my hardware?

Am i using linux just wrongly for years?

Is it my fault?

Am i missing something?

My specs:

prebuilt desktop: Acer Nitro N50-620

memory 64KiB BIOS

memory 32GiB System Memory

memory 16GiB DIMM DDR4 Synchronous 26

memory 8GiB DIMM DDR4 Synchronous 320

memory 8GiB DIMM DDR4 Synchronous 320

processor 11th Gen Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-

bridge Intel Corporation

display TU116 [GeForce GTX 1660 SUPER]

storage Micron_2210_MTFDHBA1T0QFD

bus Tiger Lake-H USB 3.2 Gen 2x1 x

network Tiger Lake PCH CNVi WiFi

bus Tiger Lake-H Serial IO I2C Con

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[–] [email protected] -1 points 2 months ago

If a game doesn't run on Linux, I just don't play it.

Life is too short, I don't care anymore.

I need Linux for work and I have no interest in paying for an OS that doesn't let me have privacy.

So fuck it, if companies don't write there software well enough... I'll live.

I'd rather spend time in a bar anyway.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I've had good luck using Pop!_OS to game on Nvidia systems. Can't speak specifically for those two games, but several other games that gave me trouble on other distros worked smoothly on Pop.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

i tried it once actually, i dont know what it was but it never really stuck with me, probably cause of gnome

i do love my "old school" menu bar

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[–] [email protected] 43 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I never seen that weirdest ram configuration ever. Its probably cursed. I never had any game that did not play at all, either i had to change some minor settings but it worked good. ( I am on Linux Mint Cinamon too )

I would guess the memory just freaks out some games that use more than 8gb ?

protondb is showing you if it is compatible with linux. If it isnt working on yours BUT it shows Gold or platinum on protondb its a YOU issue.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 months ago

I usually recommend zorin as a windows replacement as it emulates windows as much as can be and comes with a lot out of box, however, if the goal is gaming I think I would try steamos. I mean its what is on the steam deck and has a company actively working to make it work.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago

I've been doing a majority of my gaming on a steam deck lately, running Linux. Check my deck says that anno 1404 is not supported on the deck though. In general, I'd say that Linux gaming has gotten a LOT better, but it is not yet perfect.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Have you enabled Steam Play in the game options? Might be an easy step to miss/forget. Usually if a game won't run for me it ends up being something simple like that!

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

i can see why, i always make sure its activated before i force a specific proton version to try, just to be sure

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 2 months ago (1 children)

It's better today than it was a year ago, and WAY better than it was 3 years ago, and is still improving. There are a few categories of games where you are likely to have problems though.

  • competitive multiplayer games [kernel level anticheat, that one will probably remain a problem]
  • very old games [getting better all the time, because wine is getting better all the times]
  • very new AAA games [they mostly use one of a handful of game engines, so they tend to get fixed in batches]

I would say whether linux is ready for (windows) gaming depends on is different per person predicated on:

  1. What categories of games you play
  2. Any specific problematic game that is a dealbreaker for you

For me, I tend to play some older games, and there are a few that don't work well. I don't want to boot windows, so I just decide I can wait for it to get there for them.

For some people, "ready" means will run every windows program as if running on windows. We're still a ways off from that, if we ever get there (it's a moving target, as windows is still being developed...)

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago

I havent played much of any multiplayers games in years actually (does honkai star rial count?

for old games, most vividly i can remember having some trouble with dawn of war so i used soulstorm and a mod to play the og campaign in it

i tend to stay away from triple a games, one of which is because they dont play nice with linux, space marine 2 is a different case for me cause, well, i really like the universe (boltgun worked for the msot part so that was nice)

game categories: well, i dont have too many category i stay away from, but

favourite older games: advance wars series, age of mythology (retold i tried but doesnt work for me either), castlevania aria of sorrow/SOTN, elite beat agents, pepsiman, orcs and elves, punch out wii, katamari series, ace attorney trilogy, dawn of war

favourite never/ish games: hyrule warriors, lego lord of the rings, boltgun, kingdom hearts BBS, patapon

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Running Steam (Windows) games on Linux (Fedora) has always been finicky for me. Sometimes requiring digging into logs to figure out what's going on

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago

i tried to install fedora a few times, but it was borked at a system level the 3 times i did

im not the smartest woman around the blog, but when i tried to see what the terminal says sometimes with borked games, i dont think it ever helped me get a game to run, i chalk it up to simply not being knowledgeable enough

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

I had a dual boot for six weeks this summer with Linux Mint. Approximately 2/3 of my games worked fine on Linux.

I had to troubleshoot it almost every time I booted up, though, which is why I reverted to Windows setup. I plan to go back when I get a new PC and I can run linux only on a machine, but I think it's fair to say that there are some hardware incompatibilities sometimes. I've also read that there are distros other than Mint that play nice with NVidia chips, so I'll probably go with one of those when I switch back to Linux.

Still, you can blunt most of the negative aspects of Windows by running O&O ShutUp.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

before i went to linux that was one of the several tools i used

but im such a paranoid woman now that i just cant really bring myself to go back to windows

linux also just feels nicer to use to me you know?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Don't get me wrong, I loved Linux.

I just hated having to troubleshoot almost every time I booted up my PC. It was abundantly clear there were hardware incompatibilities in my case.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

is the old shutup method still good to go for win 10?

while i am always paranoid i am considering the switch fairly often recently

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (2 children)

Shutup still works but I wouldn't trust it to prevent all telemetry. I wouldn't trust Microsoft not to have other telemetry that's not part of their services that can be turned off.

Just my 2 cents: I dual boot Windows and Linux. I only start up Windows when I want to play a game, use Linux Mint for everything else. Some games run perfectly fine under Linux (I play a lot of Factorio for example. No Mans Sky I've had no issues etc.) but some are just a pain. For those I switch to Windows and then immediately switch back when I'm done playing.

It's not ideal but this way Windows has next to no information about me at least. And as times goes on I'm seeing more and more games running just fine under Linux. Maybe one day I'll be able to drop Windows completely.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

i never tried dualbooting ebfore

two reasons mainly:

  1. i simply find it too bothersome

  2. im 100% certain ill screw something up

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Some games are trickier than others for sure. Are you using protondb as a reference?

Anno 1404 is a 15 year old game with aggressive DRM so I could tell right away that it would be one of the more tricky titles.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

i actually did try using protondb in several gaming cases, i recall tweaks there working maybe once? if at all?

and i tried quite a few games, some where i went to protondb of course to check, but for me, it sadly never helped

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

It has always been gaming ready, but you lose a lot of performance if you play non-native games.

Try some non-Steam native Linux games ideally coming with your distro. For example OpenAstroMenace, Warzone2100, OpenTyrian or nexuiz etc..

Also the older multiplatform Java MMO Spiral Knights should even run with Steam (and without) on high graphics settings, but maybe you will have to swap out its bundled Java for a 64bit one.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

Most reports for Anno 1440 History Edition on ProtonDB say that it works.

I use ProtonUp-QT to keep my Wine and Proton versions up to date. It has worked well for me, especially when I need to try different versions on a game.

EDIT: Space Marine 2 is too new. Give it a little time for the reports to come out and for GE to release a ProtonGE that supports it (if needed).

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago

i think i used protonup twice perhaps? i dont think it really did anything for me

anno 1404 and space marine 2 are just two examples, the case of all games i tried not working, if i had to put it into % id give it a 6ß to 70% easily

[–] [email protected] 20 points 2 months ago

The Anno games are notoriously hard to run on Linux. Protip: always check Protondb for Linux compatibility.

Also, if you find yourself missing Anno on Linux, check out Tropico or any number of city builders by Hooded Horse. There are lots of great resource production chain city builders out there that don't force you to use Uplay

[–] [email protected] 69 points 2 months ago (1 children)

First of all, what the hell is going on with your RAM configuration?

Your first stop should have been the protondb page for your game. Given that most other people report it as running out of the box, then the issue lies somewhere else.

Which proton versions have you tried? Since you have an Nvidia card, what is the driver revision? What desktop environment, and version of it are you using?

I hate to say it, but reinstalling your entire OS multiple times, without doing any troubleshooting, has been a waste of your time

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago (10 children)

whats going on with my ram configuration?

i tried using protondb several times, but it rarely if ever has worked with me, the tweaks people suggest i mean.

all between 9 to 5 on many games, sometimes proton ge too but i never noticed a difference when trying to use that one

whats a driver revision?

DE: cinnamon 6.2.9

i have done so much troubleshooting over these years that reinstalling or installing another distro became easier and quicker to do

[–] [email protected] 17 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

Usually people have only same size RAM, but other configurations can work too. (I have 20GB of RAM running fine, for example.)

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 months ago (2 children)

do you think that may somehow be the cause of so many problems? or part of it?

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 months ago

It's unlikely to cause anything to outright fail, but it will certainly be creating bottlenecks and inefficiencies

[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 months ago

Unlikely. It won't run optimally but it shouldn't be the cause of crashes or bugs. If you're not sure you can run a ram test (https://memtest.org/)

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

https://old.lemmy.world/c/[email protected] be a good place to visit

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago

i actually posted in there once, with anno 1404 even https://sh.itjust.works/post/9489662

im aware i wasnt the nicest person in it tho, i posted at the height of the annoyance meter at the time

[–] [email protected] 33 points 2 months ago (2 children)

I’ve been gaming on Linux for years. I do habitually avoid games that would be borked ootb by things like anti cheat. But typically I have very minor issues.

Do you check out protondb.com at all?

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 months ago

quite often actually, unfortunately:

i cant recall any tweaks people mention there ever working on any of the games i tried

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