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Kamala Harris and Donald Trump are veering sharply in how they gear up for Tuesday’s presidential debate, setting up a showdown that reflects not just two separate visions for the country but two politicians who approach big moments very differently.

The vice president is cloistered in a historic hotel in downtown Pittsburgh where she can focus on honing crisp two-minute answers, per the debate’s rules. She’s been working with aides since Thursday and chose a venue that allows the Democratic nominee the option of mingling with swing-state voters.

Trump, the Republican nominee, publicly dismisses the value of studying for the debate. The former president is choosing instead to fill his days with campaign-related events on the premise that he’ll know what he needs to do once he steps on the debate stage at the National Constitution Center in Philadelphia.

“You can go in with all the strategy you want but you have to sort of feel it out as the debate’s taking place,” he said during a town hall with Fox News host Sean Hannity.

Trump then quoted former boxing great Mike Tyson, who said, “Everybody has a plan until they get punched in the face.”

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[–] [email protected] 39 points 4 months ago (4 children)

I hope Harris doesn’t over prepare, she does need to maintain a certain level of off the cuff affability.

Over preparation was Biden’s fatal error, he was struggling so hard to hit his talking points he couldn’t keep things straight. Obviously things are vastly different with Harris, but she’d be best to not just be a talking point machine.

[–] [email protected] 30 points 4 months ago (5 children)

That's the main reason I gave up on watching political debates years ago, because nothing ever gets directly answered. It's all fillers and boasting about past hurrahs and talking points.

If they just answered the fucking questions I'd be happy.

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[–] [email protected] 18 points 4 months ago

Biden’s stutter leads him to greatly overprepare.

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[–] [email protected] 23 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (6 children)

Well yeah. Because Trump’s strategy will just be to talk about all the shit he already talks about, regardless of the question. If he does actually try to answer the question he will likely just waffle, call things fake news, call Kamala a communist, shit like that. Kamala will have a normal strategy of actually answering the questions like literally any other politician would in any other debate. Hopefully she can also shut down Trump with a few simple similar to “he’s weird” comments, because even though it’s a shame that they work, they do actually work for just dismissing his bullshit and are simple to understand for the simple minded.

As I say, it’s a shame so many people are apparently that simple, that stuff like “make America great again” and “fake news, that’s just fake news” actually work: but they do work for persuading certain simple minded people who the Democrats need votes from.

It’s kinda how the whole “when they go low we go high” thing doesn’t actually work as a complete strategy.

Yes she needs to be making coherent, actual points as well. But having the odd simple put down and knowing when something Trump has said is so insane, that it actually doesn’t deserve a proper answer, but simply a dismissal is important.

Otherwise you end up being on the defensive constantly and run out of time to actually make your own coherent points.

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[–] [email protected] 37 points 4 months ago (1 children)

So Trump's plan is to punch her in the face on live TV?
It's a bold move...

[–] [email protected] 19 points 4 months ago (2 children)

If he does I would like the Secret Service let her punch him back just to see his orange surprised pikachu face.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 4 months ago (4 children)

You know. That's actually an interesting hypothetical. How does the Secret Service react if two people with Secret Service protection try to fight each other? I imagine they would first protect whoever has the most seniority, as in the current serving president, then current vice president, etc. But what if say, two former presidents try to duke it out?

Or can the president waive Secret Service protection? Since the president has broad immunity for 'official acts', does this mean the president can now duel someone on the White House Lawn at dawn?

[–] [email protected] 9 points 4 months ago

I imagine it would look something like NFL refs trying to breakup a fight.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 months ago

I’d assume that they’re different details and chains-of-command so each to their own.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 4 months ago (1 children)

They each have their own protection detail. Each will quickly move to protect the one they are responsible for, which will mean separating them (probably by a lot of distance).

Someone under SS protection can choose to waive it. There are some former presidents who deemed it unnecessary later in life.

No idea about the rest of your hypothetical

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 months ago

let_them_fight.jpg

[–] [email protected] 87 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Kind of ironic that Donnie uses that particular Mike Tyson quote because he’s a whiny little bitch who is afraid of direct confrontation and has only ever punched women.

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[–] [email protected] 103 points 4 months ago (5 children)

Kamala Harris will be spending a great deal of time both studying policy and practicing with seasoned opponents and people with a deep understanding of Trump's psychology.

Trump will argue with a cheeseburger.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 months ago

That's a far better summary than anything I've seen in the press. Good work!

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago

Hahahaha!!!!

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[–] [email protected] 47 points 4 months ago (2 children)

“Everybody has a plan until they get punched in the face.”

Yes they do Donnie. I wonder if you'll remember that when you're laid out on the debate stage from the beatdown Kamala inflicts on your orange ass.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 4 months ago

He's into being spanked on the ass. Ask Stormy Daniels.

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