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THE POLICE PROBLEM

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    The police problem is that police are policed by the police. Cops are accountable only to other cops, which is no accountability at all.

    99.9999% of police brutality, corruption, and misconduct is never investigated, never punished, never makes the news, so it's not on this page.

    When cops are caught breaking the law, they're investigated by other cops. Details are kept quiet, the officers' names are withheld from public knowledge, and what info is eventually released is only what police choose to release — often nothing at all.

    When police are fired — which is all too rare — they leave with 'law enforcement experience' and can easily find work in another police department nearby. It's called "Wandering Cops."

    When police testify under oath, they lie so frequently that cops themselves have a joking term for it: "testilying." Yet it's almost unheard of for police to be punished or prosecuted for perjury.

    Cops can and do get away with lawlessness, because cops protect other cops. If they don't, they aren't cops for long.

    The legal doctrine of "qualified immunity" renders police officers invulnerable to lawsuits for almost anything they do. In practice, getting past 'qualified immunity' is so unlikely, it makes headlines when it happens.

    All this is a path to a police state.

    In a free society, police must always be under serious and skeptical public oversight, with non-cops and non-cronies in charge, issuing genuine punishment when warranted.

    Police who break the law must be prosecuted like anyone else, promptly fired if guilty, and barred from ever working in law-enforcement again.

    That's the solution.

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Our definition of ‘cops’ is broad, and includes prison guards, probation officers, shitty DAs and judges, etc — anyone who has the authority to fuck over people’s lives, with minimal or no oversight.

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Police aren't primarily about helping you or solving crimes.

Police lie under oath, a lot

Police spin: An object lesson in Copspeak

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Shielded from Justice: Police Brutality and Accountability in the United States

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When the police knock on your door

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Authorities in at least three states have arrested individuals allegedly impersonating Immigration and Customs Enforcement officers at a time when real ICE agents have ramped up immigration enforcement efforts under the Trump administration, adding to existing fears of law enforcement among migrant communities.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago

Guy on the left looks like a methhead.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 day ago

Criminals are impersonating other criminals who are under the power of a criminal

Criminalception!!

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 day ago

authorities issue national warning

Instead of just stopping the behavior that makes this even possible lol

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 day ago

The criminals are impersonating criminals.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 day ago

To me it sounds more like the cops are impersonating civilians.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 day ago

You know, this wouldn’t be as much of an issue if they had to, I don’t know, IDENTIFY THEMSELVES.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 day ago

Who knew sending unidentified masked domestic terrorists to abduct people off the street into unmarked vehicles could lead to problems?

Fascism, folks. Always stupid. Always dangerous.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago

The literal only difference beetween these kids and ICE is that ICE gets paid.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 1 day ago (2 children)

The literal only difference beetween these kids and ICE is that ICE gets paid.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 day ago

No, the difference is the amount of backup they have

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 day ago

I wouldn't be surprised if they deputised unpaid volunteers at this point.

[–] [email protected] 47 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Wait, you mean criminals are impersonating the guys that look and act like criminals? How odd.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 day ago

Don't people realize that ICE are the people with masks that don't have to identify themselves or provide a reason why you should comply and that criminals are the people with masks that don't have to identify themselves or provide a reason why you should comply? Come on, sheeple.

[–] [email protected] 34 points 1 day ago

"Johnson was charged with three counts of kidnapping and one count each of impersonating a law enforcement officer, petty larceny, assault and battery, according to jail records."

This is what cop behavior is legally described as when you aren't a cop.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

There's an extremely simple solution to this problem

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 day ago

Yeah, shoot anyone in the face that tries to abduct you without proper identification.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago

Fucking excellent.

Well, not the crime and the general scumbaggery, but the more this happens the more justified you’ll be gunning down a random person claiming to be law enforcement as they attempt to illegally detain people. Every time an ice agent dies an angel gets its wings - if it’s from a legally defensible bullet from a patriot they get to cum too.

Do your part assholes.

[–] [email protected] 31 points 1 day ago

Fucking excellent.

Well, not the crime and the general scumbaggery, but the more this happens the more justified you’ll be gunning down a random person claiming to be law enforcement as they attempt to illegally detain people. Every time an ice agent dies an angel gets its wings - if it’s from a legally defensible bullet from a patriot they get to cum too.

Do your part assholes.

[–] [email protected] 61 points 1 day ago

Heres a crazy idea. make them wear uniforms with no masks and badges. Crazy I know.

[–] [email protected] 72 points 2 days ago

Who could have forseen this could happen?

[–] [email protected] 53 points 2 days ago (4 children)

genuinely, if i was american, i'd make sure to get a license to carry just in case this ever happened to me. anyone not identifying themselves trying to stuff me in an umarked vehicle is a kidnapper and will be treated as such.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago

Yup. I'm shooting anyone in the face who tries to abduct me without properly identifying themselves. I'll deal with the repercussions after I potentially save myself from being human trafficked or having my organs harvested.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago

The problem is you might not get the chance to make such a defense in a courtroom. If it is an actual ICE agent, they will just disappear you.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 day ago

What if these fake ICE officers identified themselves as ICE though? At what point does your identification become truth? The official ICE gestapo already doesn't have to fully identify themselves.

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