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Incase anyone tells you that lemmy.ml is not a tankie instance.

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 months ago

Read the username wrong at first

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (5 children)

lol before I realized what ml meant I made a comment that I thought that communism had never happened yet on earth but that it could one day. You wouldn’t believe the rage and attack from dozens of people who were inconsolable.

They also got mad when I said that there are only a few actual leftists in government in the US. Turns out that everyone is one, dontchano

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 months ago (12 children)

Your first sentence is not wrong; as I understand Marx’s writing. Essentially it is not possible to go from agrarianism straight to communism without first building an industrial society. That’s how Russia / USSR, China etc don’t “technically” count.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (12 children)

I’m referring more to the fact that Marx envisioned the populace rising up. What really rose in places like Russia and China was a group of self appointed elites who were really just reactionaries.

Tankies get mad because they believe that their utopia already exists and everyone else is an idiot for not ascribing to the same.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 months ago

Marx thought that the revolution would need leaders, and so the self-appointed elites aren't totally out of keeping. It's just that they were then supposed to step down and let the people govern themselves.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

That, again, is another reason why they are not really communist. “Workers of the world unite”

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Exactly. My point at that time was to say that it can happen but had not yet.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 months ago (2 children)

From my (very limited) understanding of Marx and Engels I suggest your point is correct. I don’t understand how a full-fat, red flag waving comrade could come to any other conclusion… but then I have no dog in this fight and no emotional need to be correct.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 months ago

I think that’s why you and I aren’t tankies, militant vegans, hard evangelicals, etc. It’s not important enough to worry about.

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 months ago (2 children)

…what does the ml stand for?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (11 children)

Marxism Leninism

They are the original Lemmy devs which is why I joined there. Horrible mistake, reactionary idiots who project their insecurity on others while thinking that they are the only ones who figured out the secret sauce. Pretty much exactly sovereign citizen level quackery.

look up the word “tankies” to get an idea

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 months ago
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[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Area code for Mali… and I assume shorthand for Marxist Leninist.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 months ago

I see, thanks

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 months ago

how dare you critize the regime conrade

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Ah yes, that paragon of leftist virtue...

...*checks notes*...

Muammar Gaddafi?

And they wonder why they don't get taken seriously.

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