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[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago

It's funny that any time these companies are brought up everyone says they're dangerous yet the second one listens to the sorts of studies about negative affects that get quoted here all the time everyone suddenly decides actually its censorship or brainwashing or corporate greed and that it's evidence they're evil...

Scientific studies said this content can harm developing children so they made efforts to mitigate harm, is it really so hard just to say 'oh thats good, well done' and if so then doesn't that tell you a lot about your own motivations?

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Honestly, I just want to click on a video and not have my feed instantly become every video on that topic in existence to the exclusion of all else...meanwhile, someone I am subscribed to doesn't show up on my front page when they put something out in a series I have watched 20 videos of.....gj

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago

The problem is youribe can only have one page of information and that has to be the front page offering old, new, expected and unexpected content in one easy to view list.

You know what would happen if they had a second list that only showed your subscribed content? Literally no one would click on it and everyone would complain it doesn't exist, they proved this in a test where they had that exact feature on every single person's page since they started but here we still are people complaining that their subscriptions don't always show up on the fyp (algo page)

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 week ago

YouTube can make sure not to target certain people with certain content but also they have no control over it sending me tons of far right wing stochastic terror influencers like Ben Shapiro and matt walsh

[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 week ago

wake me up when they limit teenagers from fascist far right grifters

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 week ago

...."Food companies smile in glee"

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 week ago

This is fucking ridiculous. I’m actually speechless.

[–] [email protected] 45 points 1 week ago (4 children)

So where is the line drawn? What about the teens who want to lookup how to do an exercise correctly without getting injured? The people who make these videos are usually very fit (big surprise!)

I have a feeling this is going to be driven by some AI model that’s gonna do more harm than good

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

From what I understand this is just the recommended feed so it wouldn't affect searching for specific stuff, or binging a channel's backlog.

And frankly speaking this should be a default feature. All too often the algorithm thinks "oh you watched this one video let me drown you in that shit at the expense of everything else".

The whole thing meshes well with what we know from child/youth psychology, btw: Agency makes all the difference, whether they're seeking information, or are (in currentyear), doomscrolling it. One tends to involve critical engagement, the other is an osmosis sponge.

Oh. Speaking of youtube fitness channels, here's a good one. And another one. Like, especially if you haven't done anything in a while, just watch this.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 week ago

Don't sign in?

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 week ago (1 children)

So where is the line drawn? What about the teens who want to lookup how to do an exercise correctly without getting injured?

From the article:

The platform will still allow 13- to 17-year-olds to view the videos, but its algorithms will not push young users down related content “rabbit holes” afterwards.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Is there any way they can stop suggesting me right wing channels?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Yes, delete your watch history and use the do not recommend option on video drop downs

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Well, no. It was more a joke, but I have a third party channel blocker installed that I use to block them, but every now and then, I get a new one recommended to me. What I find interesting is is that I never engage with those types of channels, so why would the algorithm ever suggest them in the first place if the algorithm? In fact, the only political content of any type I watch is Behind the Bastards, but it never suggests any left wing content. Kinda odd.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago

Because it's not God making the choices it's an algo, God would know what you want bur an algo needs data - if there is a popular video that lots of people who watch content you like watch then it makes sense they see if you're interested.

It does the same with everything, your just notice the stuff you hate more, right wingers claim youtube and Facebook push woke stuff for the exact same reason.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

I find this happens any time I engage with anything anyone on the right also likes watching, like a gun channel, or a non-political video from a right leaning channel. I think the algorithm is just saying "I saw a republican watch this once so if you watched it there's still some chance you'll engage with this right wing content."

I think it pushes it so heavily because it's a gold mine (to the algorithm) since content by those channels is so heavily consumed.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago

One personal benefit of RegularCarReviews coming out as gay has been the purge of right wingers from his channel.

Still, if google can tweak the algo so kids don't get fitness videos, I should be able to have a toogle to keep right wing videos out.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 1 week ago (1 children)

It’s YouTube, there is no line, just a vague squiggle that you can cross without any warning.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago

It's usually that they seem to block the main channels and the small ones that don't know what they are talking about slip through. Going to get some kids hurt doing this.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 week ago

Gotta make space for more nazis.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago
[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago (2 children)

they're not your kids. they belong to instatwitsnaptubetokbook

so fucking glad i don't have kids

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 week ago

There are so many reasons to be glad not to have kids. Live it up, friend.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 week ago (1 children)

That is the reason why you're glad you don't have kids? Because if you did you wouldn't be able to control what information they receive?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago

one of many reasons. but really, if anyone only needed one reason, then the fact that they're going to inherit a toxic polluted wasteland is reason enough

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