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Where are they going to deport all our homeless poor to?
Remember? Those people who used to have homes like the one you could have possibly purchased? Perhaps a homeless person used to live in your house at some point in time? Maybe they lost their job, income or became ill or had an accident?
They could be any color. But since they haven't showered, maybe they look brown? Does that mean they can just be deported?
fun fact: they're probably gonna put the homeless there anyways, as being poor is illegal in the US.
This is what conservatives are. Don't forget it. They will always choose performative cruelty. It's built into the very core of their diseased culture.
Well, I'm sure a human domicile would be a bit more robust than "alligator Alcatraz" so instead of 8 days, it might take more like.... 8 weeks? To build something comparable for the homeless?
Depending on how complex each housing unit is (bathrooms/kitchens/whatever) possibly more or less. Idk.
But knowing that the world runs on capitalist dollars, there's no profit in it. They can't pay rent, they don't have any money, and they would actively cost you money, either in property tax, water, power, and/or food... Not to mention any replacement costs for any fixtures or furniture that's damaged/stolen.
Not saying the unhoused are thieves, but a nontrivial number of them are desperate, and desperate people do things that they otherwise wouldn't consider doing.
In any case, the solution to the homeless "problem" (being that people are homeless at all) is not just housing, but also community services to get any drug users into their respective rehabilitation programs, and anyone willing and able to work, into job placements... Mental health services...
All of these things cost money and don't yield any profits, so I understand why they're not done. That doesn't mean I'm ok with it not being done, it's a shame that we've left a portion of the population to fend for themselves on the streets and we almost universally dehumanize them as less than a person because they're homeless. They're people. We should take care of them because they're people.
No child left behind, but anyone post highschool that's living on the streets, fuck them.... I guess.
There is no profit in sheltering the homeless. Those ICE camps are all the rage amongst investors ... particularly private equity firms. Private equity firms will do literal evil to make a few dollars.
The absurd irony of all these "Good Christians" testing the limits of their own religion's capacity to incarcerate hypocrites, liars, and golden idol worshipers in a hell they would certainly end up in after they die.
'The land of the free' has one of the highest incarciration rates world wide (source). It must be exceptionally safe around there, no?
Not just for the homeless, people in North Carolina are literally STILL FINDING BODIES, living in tents and cars, and can't swim in any river or lake due to run off pollution
This just shows the government is fine killing us via exposure to the elements
Your food too. The more I learn about American food production the happier I am that I have never set foot in the states. Way before all this crazy shit started happening, I already had many issues with the idea of visiting the country and one of the main ones was that I really didn't want to eat any of the food or drinking any of the water over there. They are literally poisoning you guys your whole lives.
Glyphosate, DDT, lead, mercury are huge issues in the US. Imo mercury is the biggest issue with what is happening in NC because that's all old gold mining territory and back in the 1800s they used mercury extensively to extract gold (severely poisoning the water supply and imo to this day it impacts us). But there's ofc lead in buckshot, and all the houses and cars that washed away had tons of different materials, oil, gas, MDF, etc etc
Corporations wont let us (via lobbying) have Medicare for All - because that would detect cancer (and toxins) and allow us to class action sue companies for them. Can’t sue if it was never detected. Thats why they find carcinogens and lead in kids’ products so much - their products dont have more lead in them, but kids all can be on Medicaid and that catches it. Flint, MI, water poisoning was detected by a kid on Medicaid.
They don’t want us to all have healthcare because that is public science and it will absolutely detect what theyve been lying and poisoning us with. It would probably destroy all the big companies like Nestle, Johnson&Johnson, Colgate, etc…
Yeah, don't blame you for not coming here.
I hope things will get better someday. I don't know if it will happen in our lifetime, but I do believe that the US will improve and become a nation that is for the people and not a nation for the corporation.
There was a very limited glimmer of that at a couple points in its history. I mean it's not alone in the world there, but clearly it's something all peoples yearn for.
elemental mercury itself its the least toxic, its only the ones that are organo-mercury compounds.
This toxic chemical has been used in small-scale gold mining for more than 3,000 years and can cause irreversible brain damage.
I’d have missed the point of this entirely but for the helpful underlining.
Housing the homeless: I sleep
Build a concentration camp: real shit
Haven’t seen it pointed out, yet, but it should be noted that a chain link fence and some tents are structures that have been completely toppled by far less than 3000 people many, MANY times. These are very fragile things they are building.
On an unrelated note, bolt cutters are not expensive and neither are ground bloomers, tape, and plyers.
What's a "ground bloomer"?
I believe they call them "flowers".
oh of course, don't forget to always keep your safety flowers with yourself if you want to escape after being kidnapped
They have to survive the swamp and patrols though. Once escaped, then what? They can't get a job etc
It's the surrounding Everglades that becomes the problem. But idk, I don't think I'd give a fuck vs staying there and dying from West Nile, flooding, heat stroke, hurricane, atrocities, etc... and with 3000 people, you have a much better chance
I don’t suppose anyone thought of humane conditions while building a concentration camp in a Florida swamp. Even prisoners deserve something to control the heat, the humidity, the mosquitoes, or were causing yet more needless deaths
And yes, employees overseeing obviously inhumane conditions should absolutely face justice for those illnesses and deaths
the mosquitoes,
i suspect the fucking mosquitoes or whatever insects there will be will probably be worst.
~~Even~~ Especially prisoners deserve something to control the heat.
part of the problem is that so many are OK with these concentration camps because they believe criminals deserve whatever happens to them in prison.
if people stopped indulging that false dichotomy between criminal and upstanding citizen, we might not be seeing such a large-scale kidnapping.
"Built a 3000 bed federal prison in eight days" almost sounds like they finally actually did something, until you realize:
But yeah, I also would have preferred our government take care of the unhoused (or just done nothing at all) instead of... this.
This might be where they ship homeless people when they run out of immigrants
I haven't seen much mention of this but putting people in camps like this in south Florida is a very bad idea. WW1 veterans were housed in hastily constructed camps like this in 1935 in the Florida keys and many were killed by a powerful hurricane that rolled though. There is a reason for the strong building codes and tents do not meet them.
Are they hoping a hurricane moves through their shoddily built camp and kills everyone so they have plausible deniability? Like what almost happened during Hurricane Katrina?
thats probably it.
Sure, they can provide quick housing for the homeless... As long as your standards are "puppy mill" or "chicken farm".
Imagine how quickly they can build these concentration camps for all of us who don't fall in line
Daily reminder to all ICE agents. By signing up for ICE, you have signed yourself up for a lifetime of fear and criminal liability. There are Nazi concentration camp guards that were tried for their crimes in their 90s. There is no statute of limitations on crimes against humanity. Your names are recorded; your deeds are known. And you will face justice for your crimes.
I want every Democratic politician to be repeating this every chance they get, a modern day "Carthage must be destroyed." My greatest fear is that when this is done, and Democrats are eventually back in power, that they will fall back on the same suicidal tendencies that got us here in the first place. Obama came into power on the back of the criminal Bush administration, and his first act of office was to declare "it's time to move on," and to announce that no members of the prior regime would be prosecuted. And Biden did the same after the first Trump term. We need to be willing to hold people accountable. And we need to be talking about this now. We need to fully embrace the idea of prosecuting ICE agents for their crimes against humanity. We cannot declare it's time to move on and to let them get away with what they have done.
And no, "I'm just following orders" is not an excuse. Anyone who says that deserves to hang.
Yeah but in a country dumb enough to elect Donald Trump twice? And before that Joe Biden? Obama? Bush? TWICE. BOTH BUSHES. Maybe a bit harsh to throw Obama in there, because the other options were bleak too.
Yes, but that needs that we actually win, and not just be in the period of the slow death of the "free world" and the "rules based world order", instead of heading towards a dark age of globalized neofascism and neocoloinalism.
Nuremberg trials
the nuremberg trials were a joke. only 22 people were tried and it was more of a political show to show to their own soldiers who fought hard that they were doing something about the nazis, while actually they abducted a lot of the scientists and made them work for themselves.
i wish there had been actually meaningful trials. but i guess the ruling class is never gonna punish itself.
This needs to be (if it isn't already) a copypasta that finds its way onto every post and comment board concerning ICE and the current administration's barbarous acts towards people who's only crime was not being a white person who was born here.
I suppose I should add to this, "and do not count on a blanket pardon saving you. Crimes against humanity are violations of international law that cannot be pardoned."
if the U.S was to ethically and legally house the homeless it would cost much more because criminals, the homeless, as well as some other outgroups are the only groups whose dehumanization is legal, meaning that to ethically house (and therefore humanize) them would be much more expensive as humans require more than just cages to live.
i agree with the tweet though, im just saying that the homeless can and should be provided with adequate housing and that we can and should imagine and work towards better then cages for our future.