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[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 months ago

I'm in this picture and I don't like it

[–] [email protected] 38 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (2 children)

I had a low opinion of marriage even as a kid but [then] the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints invested millions (in 2008 money) to back Prop 8, to enshrine in the Constitution of California a ban on same-sex marriage. The amendment is still there.

It was interpreted by the California Supreme Court to outlaw the act of marrying two same-sex persons, but same-sex marriages from outside the state are still respected for accommodations purposes. That was a little relief.

At that point I decided that marriage is just a state thing, a license I'd get to acquire benefits, or not, and is meaningless outside the boundaries of state or federal law.

I have a wife and she has me, and just had our eleven year anniversary, but we are not married according to any nation or state, because fuck 'em.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 2 months ago

Just be careful that you’re both designating each other as a beneficiary on any insurance, 401K/other retirement vehicles, or other assets (stocks, bonds, housing, accounts etc). If she’s not legally your spouse, she’s not going to be automatically entitled to any assets if she’s widowed or vice versa.

You both may also want to have a will or power of attorney clause given to each other in case of medical issues which prevent someone from communicating their own will. Family members get the right to act on behalf of their family, but they can’t do anything to help or protect if they’re not legally related in some way. Some places have clauses for common law spouses, but not all do, and not for all circumstances.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Does that not hurt you on your taxes/government forms? For instance, for a period of time, my wife was making far less than me and that helped us with our taxes by giving us deductions since our combined income was under a certain threshold. I believe it helps with other things as well.

Just trying to call you out, just curious because I saw this as a net benefit overall.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 months ago (1 children)

We're among those households for whom the combined reporting rate actually costs us more.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago

Huh, TIL. Thank you :)

[–] [email protected] 24 points 2 months ago
[–] [email protected] 30 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Ahh back in the good ol' days i could go mike tyson on that bitch but nowadays everythings too woke

Btw satire please dont take this seriously

[–] [email protected] 126 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

When I married my wife almost 15 years ago my mother-in-law gave me a shirt that said game over with a happy bride stick figure and a very sad groom figure so I took that shirt and I wrote a :-) over the guy's :-( and I wore that shit under my tuxedo and as soon as the wedding was over I opened my jacket and walked around with that shirt proudly for the rest of the night. Yeah game over, I won.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Well, not really game over but ng+13 now

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago

Just putting off that Kolmi fight so kiddo can have a dog

[–] [email protected] 275 points 2 months ago (3 children)

I'm so glad younger people are largely abandoning the "wife bad" garbage. Maybe it's not so bad to, you know, openly enjoy being with someone you love without having to make a joke about it.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 months ago

The biggest reason for declining marriages is that people can actually make choices now and people don't want to be shackled to someone they hate their whole lives.

People had radically different attitudes about marriage in olden times, when marriage equaled survival in many ways, and survival of your family, your connections, your career and your status, which was held through generations. It wasn't thought of normally in terms of love and that's a very modern view of marriage.

Romance and marriage for love certainly existed, but that was usually considered fantasy or stageplay.

[–] [email protected] 127 points 2 months ago (1 children)

No one has to "get married by 23 and if they ever get divorced they're massive failures" anymore.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Depends on the part of the world you live in. I'm that age and coworkers (!) constantly joke about having to find me a wife and find it a bit odd that I'm not even in a long-time relationship yet.

I had this colleague a few years back who was 28-29 at the time, and people were bad-mouthing him because he wasn't married, saying that something must be wrong with him. Societal pressure is very strong here.

You wouldn't believe this is happening in the EU, right?

[–] [email protected] 117 points 2 months ago

It's so bizarre. My models for a successful marriage growing up were my grandparents, and they adored each other. Comfortable enough to tease each other, but I couldn't imagine them ever doing something like using a wedding or an anniversary to make these kinds of weird "Wife bad" jokes.

[–] [email protected] 79 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Feeling pressured into marriage is a common issue for aromantics dating an alloromantic, regardless of sexuality.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 2 months ago (2 children)

How does an aromantic even get to the point of being pressured into a marriage (at least in a society without arranged marriage)? Why are they dating in the first place? Am I misunderstanding how that works?

[–] [email protected] 22 points 2 months ago

Same ways gay people get 'straight married'.

Could be family pressure. Could be internalized hetreonormativity making them feel like they 'should' do this. Could be they haven't really realized, come to terms with, or accepted their own identity.

I mean, think of a 'stereotypical' aromantic guy. He's interested in women, and sleeps around a lot, but despite not getting feelings, might 'settle down' with one partner because its 'normal, respectable', even if it's not something that makes him happy. Probably won't make the wife happy either, but that's it's own issue, why she might marry a guy that 'doesn't do romance'.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 2 months ago

Mainly social expectations and lack of awareness of aromanticism. I know in the US that's common in the deep south (where I'm from), but I'm sure you'll find it anywhere that's socially conservative.

[–] [email protected] 29 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Is alloromantic the opposite of aromantic? I tried to understand this by reading online definitions but am not sure at all.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (2 children)

The prefix Allo just means other, so when you have a pair of things the other one will normally become Allo-thing. Because we don't make words the culturally accepted default position until there is something to contrast it with, most instances of Allo will describe the culturally accepted default.

Aromantic - Alloromantic

Asexual - Allosexual

Autistic - Allistic

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago (1 children)

The prefix seems unnecessary and doesn’t even make sense with your last example. Why is it needed when the a- prefix works perfectly fine to contrast with the existing word as-is?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Aautistic doesn't follow English's rules for making words, we don't do double vowl startings unless they are from very specific loan words that were popular enough to break the rules.

Same was alloistic doesn't work without a hyphen because when you have an o from a prefix and I from a suffix you need to drop one of them to make the word work.

Basically English has illegal parrings of letters you can't make and when they would come up you need to hyphen them together or drop letters.

See eject, which is ex-ject but we can't have xj so we drop the x.

Or attend, which is ad-tend but we can't do dt so make it tt instead.

Wading should be wade-ing but ei, so we drop the e.

Etc

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (2 children)

I don’t think there needs to be a word that describes the negative of a condition. You just don’t need a descriptor at all. There’s no value add.

Inject vs eject? Am I being trolled here?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago

Oh but there is an implied value - superiority. When you give a group of people a descriptive property with no inverse you are basically creating a construct of "assumed default". This comes with other issues of those falling outside the default having no way to effectively talk about people of the assumed default group without using words that have value judgements baked in. Like if I am calling you "a normal person" the implicit value judgement is that I am an abnormal person. I am "othered".

This sort of denial of language assumes that a group that you are given tools to talk about never and should never talk about your group back utilizing those same tools.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

You're not being trolled this is literally how the English language works: https://www.google.com/search?q=eject%20etymology%20&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&client=firefox-b-1-m

So would you propose we just say autistic people and normal people? Doesn't that seem kind of cruel and bothering?

Should we also say asexual people and normal people, or aromantic people and normal people, trans people and normal people?

Where do you draw the line?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 months ago (2 children)

autistic/non-autistic, asexual/sexual, aromantic/romantic, trans/cis

asexual and aromantic are already based on being the negative, adding another term to reverse that just makes a double negative

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 months ago

I mean being romantic or sexual carries some other connotations and meanings making them ambiguous in many situations if used as the antonym to the asexual and aromantic label.
I don’t really care what words are used for it but I find the allo ones useful as they are the most commonly understood ones and are unambiguous.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

I'm not going to argue with you on words that have already become accepted by the people whom they affect, or that most of the things you are saying are othering to the people affected and work to say that there is something wrong with them for being different / have been used to actively dehumanize marginalized groups.

I will say you are on the wrong Lemmy if this is the fight you want to make.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Asocial - Allosocial

Aplatonic - Alloplatonic

Afamilial - Allofamilial

[–] [email protected] 20 points 2 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago

🤣 That's my brother's favorite dino

[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 months ago