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  1. We're trying to improving working conditions and pay.

  2. We're trying to reduce the numbers of hours a person has to work.

  3. We talk about the end of paid work being mandatory for survival.

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Up up with the workers

Yeah yeah!

Down down with the bosses

Boom boom!

[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 months ago (5 children)

Who the fuck would call their employee after hours? In none of the places I've ever worked, would the boss even think about calling me to do something when I'm not at work. Nobody would expect me to answer. You don't need a law about basic things like that.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 4 months ago (5 children)

See, you're just lucky. Many folks don't have good bosses, so a law like this is good.

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 months ago

So you've never worked in low-level management for say, Amazon, or a non-profit like the American Red Cross. Or whatever. Cool!

[–] [email protected] 8 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (2 children)

This law isn't catered to you personally, don't you think there are bosses or work places that call their employees after hours - it's pretty common. I don't mind, but I get mails and messages after hours and just answer them.

It does effect me without me knowing in some ways, but I personally feel it's more important to help someone, that also might be stressed and decide to contact me, for some help or questions.

If the person or boss isn't an asshole I don't mind, but not everyone has that luxury, of having a boss that cares. Often they don't want to contact you after hours.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Why I do respond sometimes out of my own convenience I'm careful to schedule the message for work hours so it's clear to people when they can expect a response.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

If it was worth stressing about, it was worth discussing with me when I was on the clock. The entire premise of a job is that I work in direct exchange for money. No money? No work. Pay me or wait until next shift.

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[–] [email protected] 36 points 4 months ago

If he were my boss I'd ignore him during work hours too, tbh.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Worst Canadian in the world, maybe top 5 worst human.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 months ago (1 children)

He makes me ashamed to be Canadian.

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[–] [email protected] 38 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

These corporate fucks should just die. No ifs, no buts, just fucking die like the scum they are.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 months ago

Die, and then get called back on the job after hours

[–] [email protected] 15 points 4 months ago (1 children)

i think this is a good idea in 95% of cases. Some jobs obviously require being on call. In some cases, it's necessary to have meetings with people in +/- 8h timezones. there should be appropriate compensation naturally.

[–] [email protected] 32 points 4 months ago

Some jobs obviously require being on call.

If you need 24/7 coverage, you also need to pay those people to wait around on call. But just buzzing people at odd hours and demanding Just-in-Time employment puts a disproportionate tax on their unpaid time.

Medical staff will often have these extremely long - 20 to 30 hour - shifts because they want to maintain continuous care on a patient. But they also get paid for being active for that time frame. They don't just teleport to the hospital when an ambulance arrives and teleport away again as soon as the patient is stable. Professional Fire Departments keep people on call in rotation so there's always someone available in the event of an emergency. The volunteer system yields much worse results, as people holding down households and second jobs can't drop everything on short notice to rush halfway across town with ease.

there should be appropriate compensation naturally.

But that will cost money. And paying more money means keeping fewer profits.

[–] [email protected] 28 points 4 months ago

If he wants to have people on call after hours - how about paying them for that?

[–] [email protected] 63 points 4 months ago (5 children)

There's a lot of talk these days about people being cancelled. This guy seems like the sort of person that would be an excellent candidate for it. I believe we, as a society, ought to collectively express our disgust at this kind of behavior.

So how is it done? How do we figuratively light the signal fires of Gondor and call forth the hosts to confront this evil?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 months ago

Boycott the companies funding them

[–] [email protected] 24 points 4 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 months ago

If Kev and his cronies keep pushing their neofeudalist garbage, that might just be the solution we'll see.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Rich asshole with a reality TV show? Probably just as likely that we elect him president, wait for him to commit treason and more felonies than anyone can reasonably keep track of, and then fail to hold him meaningfully accountable for any of it.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Better that people do not know this but I am pretty sure he is Canadian. No Presidential risk.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 4 months ago

He tried putting his hat in the ring for Canada's PM. Didn't get much momentum. His wife killing a guy with their boat came back up in the news. There's speculation she took the fall for him because he was drunk and killing people while drunk driving your boat is generally frowned upon in Canada.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 4 months ago

We could less-figuratively use O'Leary as the signal fires of Gondor.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (4 children)

Everyone should send these shitty people drawings of poop. Good ones, bad ones. Whatever your drawing level..... draw a poop, lable it with "poop" if youre not sure theyll get it and send it. That should get across that we collectively think they are shit.

These types of assholes usually have po box for their businesses at the very least. On their website they typically have some sort of mailing address under "contact us."

If we can get inundated with junk mail everyday from shitty businesses advertising I think we can return the favor on this one.

Edit - put the return address from the north pole

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago (1 children)

This could work.

#we're not taking your crap anymore

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Maybe #shitpostal could work? dunno how any potential sensors would handle that one though. Don't want it getting filtered out or anything

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago (1 children)

You're right on making it more pithy, but if prefer something like #nomorecrap

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 months ago (4 children)

I like that one a lot more! No censoring to worry about.
I'd really love for this to take off. It's a way to protest that people can participate in without having to disrupt their lives or take time off from work.

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[–] [email protected] 56 points 4 months ago (1 children)

A couple hundred years ago, Kevin O'Leary would be whipping his slaves to death for objecting to being raped.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 4 months ago (1 children)

With the right vote he could be doing that in a few years too.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 months ago (1 children)

That vote's coming in western Canada. So many short-sighted hillbillies rage-voting in some fatcat climate-change denying moron hell-bent on killing healthcare and personal autonomy under the banner of "woke==bad". All the Dodge RAM pilots are eating it up -- and not just to soak up the rye before heading out.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago

The ag industry just got thrown under the bus because the Liberals needed to suck american cock and bring in a tariff on Chinese EVs that nobody wanted. It's not protecting anything in Canada, and now all canola shipments are under "dumping review" by China as retribution.

Hundreds of thousands of people in agriculture affected by this in order to accomplish nothing, but hey, we're used to it. No wonder he doesn't have any friends west of Ontario.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago

That dude is a great illustration what Engels meant by comparing slavery to wage slavery.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 months ago

But Kevin O'Leary is a very honerable man /s

[–] [email protected] 39 points 4 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 22 points 4 months ago (1 children)

After reading that, I think calling O'Leary a garbage human is an insult to garbage everywhere.

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[–] [email protected] 27 points 4 months ago (2 children)

So you'll pay a livable wage plus overtime everytime you call me outside work yeah?

[–] [email protected] 11 points 4 months ago

... and an on-call premium so you are always available

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

He doesn't get overpay himself for these hours, why should you? /s

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