Again, it's not a war, it's a genocide. And Hamas is just a dogwhistle for Palestinians at this point. Then again, the defense minister iirc said there's no way they can win this war. Why? Cause a full and complete genocide is completely impossible. There are going to be survivors even if they nuked the entire cursed--I mean holy land. The Palestinians have a wide diaspora as well.
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Is there such a thing as a non-politically motivated strike? Isn't that the whole point?
All strikes have to be done during this hours and only for this specific reasons. We don't want to upset anyone with the strikes.
Only democracy in the middle east, people aren’t allowed to protest.
This is how to protest people... good for them!
They weren't protesting for the sake of the Pelestinians, and they never have so far as I know... So I remain unimpressed.
Cant wait for the day Israel is treated like an international pariah.
There are passports that has the line “This passport is valid for all countries except Israel”.
I think they already are in places that don't have UN veto power?
Since when did Bibi ever listen to the courts? Keep going.
Do you think Bibi knows the quote "Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable"?
This isn't a danger for him. His people support him from what I've seen. They complain about policies that impact their own, but allow genocide to carry out without any notable opposition.
Yeah, except he knows the US has his back no matter what he does.
His back or Israels? Because as an American, we have a long history of negotiating with presidents who aren't president quite yet.
That said, Netenyahu is not enough of a threat to American interests to justify a regime change peaceful or otherwise.
He doesn't care
There's never a shortage of people willing to risk death and dismemberment to hold on to power.
Israel is one of the major intelligence hub in the world. So how did the October 7 attack happen if that was true?
Netanyahu allowed it. Look at the Wikipedia page. He knew. He sacrificed his own people and allowed it to happen.
Egypt said it warned Israel days before the attack that "an explosion of the situation [was] coming, and very soon, and it would be big."[81] Israel denied receiving such a warning,[82] although Michael McCaul, Chairman of the US House Foreign Relations Committee, said that warnings were given three days before the attack.[83]
That's two countries saying Israel knew days before the attack.
According to The New York Times, Israeli officials had obtained detailed attack plans more than a year before the attack.
The New York Times, who spread propaganda for Israel, said Israel knew.
The Times reported, "Hamas followed the blueprint with shocking precision." According to The Times, the document was widely circulated among Israeli military and intelligence leadership, who largely dismissed the plan as beyond Hamas's capabilities, though it was unclear whether the political leadership was informed.
The Times is a British newspaper. They said the IDF knew and information stopped somewhere in the chain of command. That's two newspapers outside their country that knew the attack was going to happen.
According to a BBC investigation, surveillance reports suggested that Hamas was planning a significant operation against Israel, but senior IDF officers repeatedly ignored the warnings.[99]
BBC is one of biggest news sources in the world. That's three news sources outside Israel that knew more than one of top intelligence sources in the world. Mossad had spies in Hamas and some how thousands of fighters crossed the border.
Yup, you have to be childishly naive to believe the Israelis were surprised. It just perfectly played into their hand.
https://www.nytimes.com/2023/11/30/world/middleeast/israel-hamas-attack-intelligence.html
It's just israelis cockiness, they didn't take the threat seriously rather than just allowing it to happen
Either way they knew and Netanyahu's incompetence got his own people killed. He should not have a job.
The October 7 attack was horrible but it's pretty convenient for Netanyahu to be incompetent at that time. Polls showed most people were against the 2023 Israeli Judicial Reform. One of the most out spoken groups were the millennials and Gen-Zers, the ones most likely to attend the Nova Music Festival.
Attendees described the crowd as mostly consisting of Israelis of ages 20–40 from across the country.
Source: Wikipedia
"Bin Laden determined to attack United States."
Considering al-Qaeda attacked the World Trade Center twice while bin Laden was general, that statement is correct.
Correct, and Bush ignored the warning.
Are you suggesting Hamas was in favour of the judicial reform?
No, Hamas views on it has nothing to do with what I said.
A war would keep Netanyahu in power longer. War has been used throughout history for people to grab more power and to keep power longer.
An attack at the Nova music festival would get rid of some Israeli civilian opposition to the 2023 Israeli Judicial Reform.
Do you think he coördinated with either Hamas or the organizers to make sure festival would be hit?
I think he has enough undercover Mossad agents in Hamas to influence them which target to attack.
Either way they are lying about it
October 7th 2023, September 11th, 2001, and December 7th 1941 all supposedly had intelligence reports at least a couple of days prior from foreign sources. I am sensing possible geopolitical motivations here.
Here's information from a an Israeli newspaper:
According to Haaretz, Israel's domestic intelligence agency, Shin Bet, and IDF military commanders discussed a possible threat to the Nova music festival near kibbutz Re'im just hours before the attack, but the festival's organizers were not warned.
Haaretz (Hebrew: הָאָרֶץ lit. 'The Land [of Israel]', originally Ḥadshot Haaretz – Hebrew: חַדְשׁוֹת הָאָרֶץ, IPA: [χadˈʃot haˈʔaʁets] lit. 'News of the Land [of Israel]') is an Israeli newspaper. It was founded in 1918, making it the longest running newspaper currently in print in Israel.
Oh, I concur. Just alluding to historical situations wherein interested parties ignored or withheld information in accordance with a broader agenda.
Russia repeatedly ignored intelligence suggesting the Kursk obslast invasion. So there is an even more recent example than the October Hamas terror attacks
I see. I thought you were implying international news sources were giving out misinformation for their own agenda. That's why I posted a national newspaper source.
... Well. That was short lived.
But it ended early after a labor court ruled it must stop in mid-afternoon in response to a government petition calling the strike politically motivated.
When Bibi says he wants it ended, it ends.
This is what their vaunted democracy looks like. The guy committing genocide demands and gets unquestioning silence, and a broken strike.
It's the envy of every last centrist.