You’re basically stealing from other people when you use LLMs without constraints, that’s more classist and ableist
this post was submitted on 02 Sep 2024
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If I were unable to write a novel in a month^1^ but really wanted to and some smug little shit came up to me and offered to ghost write it for me, I would not be happy. How is SALAMI generated text any different?
1: I definitely can't.
I've gotten xlose (~30k words) in previous nanowrimos but it looks like I'm not doing that anymore
The audacity to tout classism and ableism as reasons as to why people should "get to" use LLMs for their "write a novel in a month" challenge...
Even when someone's inability to write a novel in a month is because of their class or disability, I somehow doubt they want to let a machine write their novel for them. I mean, it's not like NaNoWriMo is a way to put food on the table or something, right?!!
This feels like the arguments Mid journey ~~fellators~~ fanboys were spouting a year ago (or has it been two?) on how not everyone can afford a school of fine arts 🙄
Also the "banking the unbanked" arguments from crypto fanboys before that.
Also plenty of people with disabilities still find ways to write in spite of or even inspired by their unique limitations. I've seen very similar arguments around visual arts and loads of people with disabilities have spoken out against it.
How did they manage to make a shorted version of the name more kludgy than just saying the full name?
NaNoWriMo did not say that 'not writing your novel with AI is classist and ableist'.
What they did say however is almost worse:
We also want to be clear in our belief that the categorical condemnation of Artificial Intelligence has classist and ableist undertones, and that questions around the use of AI tie to questions around privilege.
So you're classist and ableist and probably privileged if you're against the use of AI.
Talent and effort are privileges and you should feel bad about them you scum
Nah this is still a stupid point.
LLMs are not a writing tool at all, it's like saying it's classist to not be able to afford a ghostwriter.
Did they just admit AI is retarded?
fuck right off thanks
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this way to the egress, sir
poster name checks out, and I didn’t even get to see the dumb
@dgerard Not sure where else to post this, but I'll post it here since this may be related to this thread. Either your account is directly banned on Hachyderm now, or circumstances.run has been defederated. Not sure how all that works, but here's a screenshot of what your account looks like from a Hachyderm POV.
In case this doesn't translate to Lemmy, it says your account is suspended.
eh, their loss, my account is where it's at for quality tech ranting. hachyderm is a bit like programming.dev but for mastodon.
@dgerard As long the ranting continues unabated on awful.systems, I suppose it's nothing to get annoyed about.
if you can't see my stuff on hachyderm worth a complaint to your admins? or find a host less interested in protecting you from malign influences whether you like it or not
@dgerard I think that all depends on whether or not my curiosity is strong enough to overcome my sense that sending a message to a Mastodon admin team about why the writer who inadvertently got Elon Musk and Grimes to hook up is banned on my server would be too-online a thing to do, even for me. So, yeah, I'll probably end up doing that around 2:00 a.m. this morning.
thanks for the notice! I’ll make sure David sees this and do some poking around as well. by any chance, were you able to see if any other circumstances.run accounts show the same error?
@self I don't think I follow anyone else on circumustamnces.run. If you have one handy, would you post another account name from that instance and I'll take a look?
whee, i missed that one completely. it seems that some over-eager hachyderm mod suspended @[email protected] 's account. nothing that can be done on our side. (unfortunately i don't have a backchannel to the hachyderm mods).
their loss lol
@[email protected] is the instance admin (also on this instance as @[email protected]) so they’re probably the best account to check
@self Okay, mawhrin's account is viewable from Hachyderm (https://hachyderm.io/@[email protected]). So looks like it's specific to Gerard.
@self Gerard's page, for comparison: https://hachyderm.io/@[email protected]
Not sure if these pages render different if you're not logged in.
huh, for me (not logged in) David’s account is viewable via that link — that’s really bizarre. I’ll do a little more digging when I can!
@self Just did a quick test, and at least for me when I am logged in it shows the account as suspended, but when I look at that same link in a private tab it immediately redirects to the circumstances.run instance and shows the account info there.
Keep in mind that it redirects to circumstances.run if you visit the account page, I don't know why it still does that when the account is suspended, it was supposed to show you a page saying it redirects. Maybe it's a bug on mastodon. If I search for davidgerard on hachyderm it says he's suspended.
are we about to find out the hachyderm board/steering group/whatever are involved in the nanowrimo ai shit? I recall a bit about some previous dumb shit about a bunch of the people in the foundation, think it was coiner noise with a dash of ai hyping iirc?
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