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[–] [email protected] 21 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (6 children)

Right? But this only applies to Capri Sun. If it were Hi-C, you’d demand a juice box.

Also, the people who are currently in their childhood absolutely do not care. It’s just us 40+ curmudgeons that must drink Capri Sun from a pouch, Hi-C from a tiny box, and Sunny D straight from that wonky-shaped jug that won’t fit in the fridge door.

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[–] [email protected] 18 points 2 months ago (2 children)

shit rots your teeth anyway

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 2 months ago (1 children)

They need to go the other way. More drinks in pouches. Cocktails for adults.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 months ago (4 children)

Fine by me!...As long as whoever at Pepsi made the decision to only release Hard Mt Dew in "Zero sugar" versions is nowhere near it

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[–] [email protected] 23 points 2 months ago (4 children)

In the United States, Kraft and its former parent company, the tobacco conglomerate Philip Morris Cos. (now Altria), have successfully marketed Capri Sun using strategies developed for selling cigarettes to children.[2] American parents often misidentify Capri Sun as healthy, and it is one of the most favorably rated brands among Generation Z Americans.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capri-Sun

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[–] [email protected] -3 points 2 months ago (1 children)
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[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Meh, I’m well into my 40s and solidly don’t give a shit.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago

I'm proud of you! Letting go of your childhood nostalgia and stop regarding it as an unachievable goal and safe place to return to is a first step towards maturity!

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 months ago (7 children)
[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago (2 children)

I imagine it's pretty much the same amount of plastic as they've always had.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

The correct choice would have been paper/cardboard bottles, which is easier to recycle

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Bottles are 80% more plastic than pouches and cost more. The only good part is those pouches are not usually recyclable at all and sometimes bottles get recycled.

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[–] [email protected] 26 points 2 months ago (2 children)

I very specifically remember the controversy 15-20 years ago when it was found that many of these pouches had mold in them, and you couldn't see it because of the pouch or even taste it. I'm sure the quality control since then has improved, but any time I see a pouch of juice, I think about that mold incident.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago

When they started doing the childrens semi-solid foods (applesauce) in similar packs, they had the exact same problem for YEARS

The form factor sucks ass and I wish they'd find a better way for both types of product

[–] [email protected] 13 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Is that why some brands made the back of the pouch transparent?

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I would assume so. I would also think a lot of people just aren't comfortable consuming something that they can't see.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Now if only we could get transparent aluminum cans.

(I mean technically we can? But it wouldn't be the same. Just super dense synthetic corundum at best.)

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

it would be so crazy if we used that one barely functional tried and true for hundreds if not thousands of years product called glass.

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[–] [email protected] 68 points 2 months ago (4 children)

Oh no. I can’t relive the childhood frustration of being unable to access that sweet nectar shielded behind an impenetrable puncture-proof material with no tools to work with but the flimsiest of mini plastic straws.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I don’t know about over there, but here they’ve started selling them with paper straws. Making it even more impossible to puncture that stupid little hole while ruining the straw in the process.

And of course it’s the only thing my daughter wants to drink. I’ve had to resort to using a nail file to open those things.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

I hate paper straws. There are many different compostable straws and paper is about the worst.

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Then you push hard enough to punch through, and the straw goes straight out the back too.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 months ago

That was the worst. I loved it.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Skill issue. You could always penetrate the tiny hole with your canines if you were adamant enough

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[–] [email protected] 106 points 2 months ago (3 children)

Sad, from a nostalgia point of view, but probably a win, environmentally. We have a pipeline to recycle plastic bottles, the mylar pouches are pretty much all single use.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Source on this "pipeline"?

[–] [email protected] 17 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Recycling bin > recycling lorry > container > third world country > sea.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago (10 children)

...do you not believe bottles are recycled? Or is this just a snarky way of pointing out how ineffective the system is?

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[–] [email protected] 116 points 2 months ago (5 children)

We actually don’t have a pipeline to recycle plastic bottles though, right?

[–] [email protected] 24 points 2 months ago (3 children)

Why aren't we just using glass, as we did for decades just fine.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 2 months ago (7 children)

That's not actually a solution when talking single-use either. Remaking the bottles from recycled glass is incredibly energy intensive and not an environmentally friendly process either. Multi-use bottles are much better, but the cleaning required also isn't that simple and also relatively energy intensive (far from remaking the bottles of course).

There's also practical downsides to glass (heavy, breakable), but those are subjective and their relevance highly depends on the use case.

Ideally, we wouldn't buy stuff to drink in any kind of bottle, but just use tap water. possibly just buy some concentrated stuff to then make your actual drink at home. Nothing beats the effectiveness of transporting water through a simple pipe, but that isn't even possible everywhere in the world due to drinking water quality issues...

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 months ago

Well that would be because the god-king CEO would have like 45k less per year out of his 38,000,000 dollar salary without bonuses and stock value if we were to do that, you fuckin peasant idiot chump. Not only that but their enabling middle management might have as much as $200 less in their annual bonuses. Think for someone else other than yourself for once.

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[–] [email protected] 42 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Bottle deposit systems are generally effective. In Sweden, 90-95% of the pet plastic in drink bottles makes it back to a factory to be used as raw material for new bottles. We don't really recycle the hdpe lids or polyester labels, though.

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[–] [email protected] 34 points 2 months ago (1 children)

But much better to use aluminium.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 months ago (7 children)

At least aluminum actually is recyclable.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago

I feel like I'm the only one who experienced metal bottles of Pacific cooler like 20 years ago. My mom bought them one time before realizing I went through them just as quickly as the pouches, despite them being like 4x the volume and price. They were one of the best things I ever experienced

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 months ago (2 children)

A bottle that's actually a drink vs. a pouch that's barely a mouthful? I'm OK with that...

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Yeah but kids also take much smaller sips than adults. That said, last time I drank a Capri Sun, I downed it in one squeeze and was super disappointed.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago

|I downed it in one squeeze and was disappointed

This was and always will be all of our experience. Child or not, this was and is the only way

[–] [email protected] 27 points 2 months ago

A 30 Pack of pouches was sold for like 0.05 to 0.20 USD per fluid oz.

They sell large 96 fl oz bottles at roughly 0.30 USD per fluid oz, so you're actually getting less drink with bottles as things stand currently.

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