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Amazon Contractors can't even sing in their cars now. Unions protect against this micromanagement. (slrpnk.net)

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago

I refuse to believe that Amazon is real anymore.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Does your employer reallly have the right to fire you because you sing in his car ? Is it legal in the US ?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago

Everything is legal in the usa for corporations and the rich. Just a little itsy fine to pay and then you never hear about it again, even though they don't stop

[–] [email protected] 13 points 2 months ago

The National Labor Relations Board recently ruled that Amazon was illegally blocking delivery workers from unionizing. https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2024/08/labor-board-confirms-amazon-drivers-are-employees-in-finding-hailed-by-union/

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I recall several cases of "copyright infringement" that this reminds me of.

One case was an auto-shop that was just playing music on their stereo system or whatever

another case was an elderly couple that liked to sing songs together

we really have to get the DMCA under control. it does way more harm than good

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago

Amen. If we could get a community against this going, it would be a first step. Would you like to help with such a thing. Lets be the change we want to see.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago

This reminds me of that scene in the matrix.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 months ago

I bet this is monitored by AI software

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 months ago

My nasal passages aren't properly developed or something so I have to regularly breathe through my mouth. Wonder if anyone can use that, a medical disorder, to sue after being fired.

[+] [email protected] -11 points 2 months ago (2 children)

While none of us here can say for sure, I wonder if this is more forced by Amazon's fleet insurer raising rates rather than an evil directly from Amazon just because they can.

Amazon has roughly 30,000+ delivery vehicles. I don't know their accident rate. But any injury or accident lawyer can tell you that listening to music and singing and generally be-bopping down the road IS distracted driving. This will cause larger payouts per accident and also higher insurance rates. And it's low hanging fruit to go after in court. If Amazon is noticing the extra cost becoming an issue, it could well be the reason for such a draconian policy.

I'm not sayin'. I'm just sayin' it could be a driver, (pun intended), in this instance.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago

That's not how insurance works. They monitor average speed, acceleration, and braking, if anything. There's no correlation between mouth movement and accidents. What if someone is chewing gum? What about adjusting dentures? What about drinking coffee while parked?

Show me an actuarial table that includes "mouth movement" as a variable or admit this is just a middle manager trying something stupid.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 months ago (1 children)

A company having a policy because "the insurance company makes us" is no less evil than the insurance company.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 months ago

I wish I can upvotes a million times because that deflection is how we got into this evil.

[–] [email protected] 30 points 2 months ago (2 children)

I know it's not the point, but what happens if you wear a mask? Either a cloth mask, or a Michael Myers mask. They'll probably think "wow, this guy isn't distracted at all! employee of the month!"

[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 months ago

Just tape a nice picture of you really focusing on the road to the camera.

Now you can even drive around hookers or be a getaway driver during a bank heist.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Not even blinking, this guy is locked in

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago

This gave me a genuine chuckle

[–] [email protected] 37 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Can't restricting mouth movements be seen as a restriction on speech and people's right to talk about and form a union?

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 months ago

It depends on what it says when they run the video through a lip reading program.

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