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[–] [email protected] 17 points 8 months ago (1 children)

It is still a wonder of nature though that they appear the exact same size in our sky, allowing perfect eclipses

[–] [email protected] 7 points 8 months ago (1 children)

It's a happy coincidence that we get to experience both total and annular solar eclipses. It wasn't always so, and it won't always be so. There was a first annular eclipse, and there will be a final total eclipse.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago

That's hauntingly beautiful

[–] [email protected] 14 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I'm actually still convinced that Flats are just trolling the whole world and pissing their pants from laughing when noone looks.

These things can't be truly real and serious. They can't. No. Nonono.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 8 months ago (2 children)

There’s a fascinating documentary, Behind the Curve. It talks about how, for a lot of these people, it began with the thrill of having some secret knowledge that others don’t, and then found they had a community and felt included for the first time in their lives (for some of them). That sense of community is really important to humans, so now, just like religion, there is more binding people to the movement than just the hidden knowledge.

(If I’m remembering correctly. I may be conflating it, it’s been a while since I watched it.)

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago

That actually makes sense and explains best. Extremely sad, but that's probably it. Besides those that just love to troll. Never thought about reason tbh, i was so baffled at the sheer stupidity of it all to see the "good".

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago

A lot of conspiracy theories seem to hinge on the idea that anyone engaging in the theory somehow has access to information that most people don't, at least that's my theory.

[–] [email protected] 33 points 8 months ago (3 children)

Americans are insane. I don't want to stereotype, but who the fuck needs a burger the size of a car?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago

I mean it's almost the size of that apartment building in the back.

(Or is it fore? Never quite grok'd any of that perspective stuff...)

[–] [email protected] 5 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I had lots of cars the size of burgers though, when I was a little child

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

I have lots of cars the size of burgers now, when I am ostensibly no longer a little child.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago
[–] [email protected] 9 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

Flerfs can't understand scale, they can't understand 3d space, they can't understand distances, they can't understand pretty much anything. The world is scary for them, they deserve our pity AND scorn. If only they paid attention in school

[–] [email protected] 4 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Flerfs can't understand scale, they can't understand 3d space, they can't understand distances, they can't understand pretty much anything. The world is scary for them, they deserve our pity AND scorn. If only they paid attention in school

They certainly deserve our pity. They’re lonely people who were never great in school and now get to think they’re smarter than others AND have found a community that accepts them.

Unfortunately the very pressures that made them susceptible to the flat earth movement and other conspiracies are the same pressures that keep them from accepting that they’re wrong. “Scorn” probably isn’t a useful tool, even if it feels like the right one (and they absolutely deserve it).

The Socratic method would be far more effective. Continue to ask them questions, accepting as a given that they’re intelligent people and treating them as such. Innocently interrogate them, with genuine interest, about the things they are saying until they reason themselves out of their positions.

But this will only work if they’re someone you know, most likely. Otherwise they’re likely to shun you the first time they come across a question that truly shakes their position.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 8 months ago

You can't reason someone out of a position they didn't reason themselves into. "They're hiding the true shape of the ball, because they don't like god" isn't a reasonable argument. And yet for a lot of Flat Earthers, that's exactly the reason why a lot of them believe the earth is flat "cuz muh bibble sez so".

Believe you me, I have tried the socratic method, but they're much more comfortable with the lies from Eric Dubay's monotonous drone zone, Flatzoid's Perspective's selective editing, Nathan Oakley's daily shouting hour than any real facts. We live in a post fact world, it's all "a matter of opinion" to these flat earth weirdos.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago

I'm currently reading "The sword of Dawn" manwha. There, the planet is closer to a low luminosity star, making sunset/rise way bigger.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 8 months ago (2 children)

actually the part that i am scratching my head at is the sevenfold brighter bit.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago

I was surprised to see that they dug a verse from the Book of Enoch. It's not even considered to be canon within Christianity or Judaism.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I was curious about this too. From random web searching (Syfy.com), the sun is 200,000 times brighter than the moon in the visible light region of the electromagnetic spectrum.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 8 months ago (2 children)

I know human perception is logarithmic. I'm interested why it was thought it was 7x brighter. "Sevenfold as the seven days in one" it seems?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I think sevenfold means n^7 not n*7.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago

I didn’t know about logarithmic perception, that’s interesting! I bet you’re right about 7x being chosen due to the significance of the number seven in the Bible.

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