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[–] [email protected] 21 points 3 months ago (3 children)

I don't really care unless it has the same price point as the 8gb one.

But we all know it won't be.

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Wait, that's it? Seriously?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Minimum, the base model chip can also come with 32gb.

[–] [email protected] 30 points 3 months ago (6 children)

Whoa, that's like 32GB of Windows RAM. Seems excessive to me tbh

[–] [email protected] 16 points 3 months ago (10 children)

The annoying thing is I have had people claim that 8GB and 16GB is fine on Apple and works better than on PC laptops. To the point one redditor point blank refused to believe I owned an Apple laptop. I literally had to take a photograph of said laptop and show it to them before they would believe me about the RAM capacity.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I own a 8GB MacBook Pro for work, it's definitely better than a PC with 8GB of RAM, but not better or even close to a PC with 16GB. Just the amount of stutters/freezes while the swap file goes is insane

[–] [email protected] 9 points 3 months ago (4 children)

Maybe this is true if you use Windows. If you use Linux on your PC versus macOS on a MacBook you will probably find the PC performs comparably if not better.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Until you open a web browser or an Electron app. Them folks don't really seem to give a shit about RAM usage.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Is it like SI RAM vs US Customary RAM?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Yes. Freedom RAM equals approx. 1.6 metric RAMs. Unless your computer is on water, in which case it's 1.857

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Is that calibrated against the Universal Prototype Kilobyte in Paris?

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 3 months ago (1 children)

My Linux machine has 64 GiB of RAM, which is like 128 GiB of Mac RAM. It's still not enough

[–] [email protected] 10 points 3 months ago (7 children)

Serious question what are you using all that RAM for? I am having a hard time justifying upgrading one of my laptops to 32 GiB, nevermind 64 GiB.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 months ago (1 children)

If games, modding uses a lot. It can go to the point of needing more than 32gb, but rarely so.

Usually, you'd want 64gb or more for things like video editing, 3d modeling, running simulations, LLMs, or virtual machines.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago (3 children)

I use Virtual Machines and run local LLMs. LLMs need VRAM rather than CPU RAM. You shouldn't be doing it on a laptop without a serious NPU or GPU, if at all. I don't know if I will be using VMs heavily on this machine or not, but that would be a good reason to have more RAM. Even so 32 GiB should be enough for a few VMs running concurrently.

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Does it?

Previous benchmarks have shown the 8 GB models seriously fell behind in performance.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Yeah I think the joke just flew over your head.

Apple keeps saying that their RAM is somehow magic and therefore better than Windows RAM, which is a comment that obviously makes no sense.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Yeah I think the joke just flew over your head.

I realize this should be a joke, but I am still unsure if it is.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

It is 100% a joke. Literally other than Windows being slightly more RAM hungry, there's not a huge difference between it and Mac's RAM

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I think they are able to share it with the GPU or something? It is maybe slightly better but it sure as fuck is not 2x better.

8 GB, even if it is "magic RAM," is a joke amount and has been for a long time.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 months ago (1 children)

That's just an APU, see consoles and laptops. The unified memory is basically just the above, but Apple also claims that due to Apple Silicon having the storage controller on board, the swap is magically faster 🤷

Also Mac OS/Linux use less RAM than Windows which certainly helps.

8GB is "fine™" on a MacBook Air, but it's criminal for a Pro machine, and it certainly should not cost £200 for an extra 8GB. That's genuinely insane pricing

[–] [email protected] 9 points 3 months ago (2 children)

That's the real issue, isn't it? The upgrade prices are disconnected from reality by a lot. If they were within the realm of sanity nobody would care much that the base is 8 GB.

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