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[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago

Good! Keep adding them!

[–] [email protected] 134 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (22 children)

Solar/wind + battery storage is cheaper than natural gas and a hell of a lot cleaner. It makes no sense to go for a more expensive, dirtier form of energy.

[–] [email protected] 72 points 3 months ago (6 children)

I'm excited about salt batteries taking up the slack on a lot of this infrastructure in the future.

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[–] [email protected] -5 points 3 months ago (9 children)

Solar/wind + battery storage is cheaper than natural gas and a hell of a lot cleaner. It makes no sense to go for a more expensive, dirtier form of energy.

How exactly is the production of batteries cleaner and cheaper than the production of natural gas?

[–] [email protected] 16 points 3 months ago (1 children)

You make the batteries once, and the pollution due to production is spread over the 10-15 year lifetime of the battery. During that time gigawatt hours of clean power sloshes in and out of them. This in contrast to having to produce enough gas to make all of those gigawatt hours once, then throw the gas away as co2 and get more, along with the attendant pollution.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Do you want the math or would you prefer less reading and more pictures?

[–] [email protected] 20 points 3 months ago (8 children)

In the US, the major source of natgas is now fracking.

And uh, fracking is about the most gross extraction method for anything you can dig out of the ground.

[–] [email protected] -5 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Cool story. How do we pull rare earth minerals, needed for batteries, from the ground?

[–] [email protected] 14 points 3 months ago (4 children)

Typically not by injecting toxic carcinogens into the ground to do so, like we do with fracking.

Also I've not heard of any strip mining activities that turn a town's only water supply into something that's flammable, but I perhaps missed that?

Or the ongoing incidents of child and adult cancer caused by this itty bitty little toxic waste issue.

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