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Kamala Harris gets it. Yes, we should fear Trump—but we should also mock him mercilessly, because it drives him nuts.

Donald Trump is in free-fall. Read this description from Sunday’s Washington Post of how the GOP nominee spent last week: “[A]ides did not want a situation where he was watching the convention every night, getting angry, and then just golfing all day and stewing, according to people who spoke on the condition of anonymity to discuss private interactions. Trump also had grown annoyed with the news coverage that depicted him as not working as hard as his opponent, one person who talked to him said.”

If you didn’t know that the article was about Trump and you just read it cold without knowledge of the context, you might think it was a description of parents trying to figure out how to handle an ungovernable four-year-old. So they convinced Trump to get out of Bedminster and hit the road, trading suck-ups with Robert F. Kennedy Jr. In the past, Trump has called Kennedy the “dumbest member” of the Kennedy family and a “radical left lunatic.” Kennedy has calledTrump a “terrible human being” and “probably a sociopath.”

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 months ago

They don't even have to ridicule him. All they have to do is take every single thing he has ever boasted about and one-up him. That's it. Get someone better at golf that Trump to play Mar-A-Lago and beat Trumps score. Get that person speaking at Harris's rallies and talk shit about the course and how they got the best score ever recorded there. Never even mention Trump by name but rest assured he'll hear about it and freak out.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 months ago (1 children)

It would be nice if it didn't take all this time to go on the offensive lol. Dems always let the GOP position themselves as rational no matter what.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago

We should be paying far more attention to picking candidates who are able to attack and defend themselves. We focus on their history and what they say about what they're going to do which of course never actually happens not holy their own fault though. We need to pick our candidates more like picking lawyers.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I could have told them that 10 damn years ago. Clearly these politicians were never bullied as kids.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago

Right? The guy is one of the most predictable people on earth because his entire being is a sucking hole of narcissism.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 months ago

"When they go low, we go high! Ah, that brilliant political strategy that worked so well for the Democrats in 2016!" - Ronny Chieng

[–] [email protected] 19 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I hear if you splash water on him he melts.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago (2 children)

But he's orange, not green.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Yeah, but it's just paint.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

So throw "The Dip" from "Who Framed Roger Rabbit" at him.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago

He doesn't have enough of a sense of humour to be a toon.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago

but he's salty

[–] [email protected] 16 points 2 months ago (2 children)

I feel like there's an old school, ancient parable about laughing at the monster to make it go away that I'm trying to remember

[–] [email protected] 14 points 2 months ago (1 children)

It was something on the Vikings' radar. They often used to settle differences with a slagging match. I think they also had guys who would mock the enemy prior to battle to affect morale.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 months ago (2 children)

The Vikings invented rap battles?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago

They invented lots of battles

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago

Yep, look up "Flyting"

[–] [email protected] -3 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Mockery is a bad thing except maybe against actual totalitarian dictators (but then maybe their danger should be shown honestly, not mocked). Mocking people overrides rational arguments.

Also they mock whole nations when those are under threat. A lot of Nazi propaganda was mockery. A lot of Azeri propaganda is mockery of Armenians (when it's Azeri-bought Russian and Ukrainian media, direct Azeri propaganda is more about threats and gloating than mockery).

A two-edged sword. In a situation where Trump can't win an election, maybe they shouldn't use such poisonous means.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

We tried that, and it is failing. We need to point out how incompetent and disgusting the GOP has become.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

What's failing? Polls tell us otherwise.

And by the way, maybe they are competent. Maybe they are just fine with Dems winning the election.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

Back in 2016 it was "Trump is dumb, and there's no way Republicans would vote for him". We mocked him while underestimating his dumbass fanbase. Now we need to directly mock Trump's policies and attitude toward the presidency and those who support them, and not make them appear as some powerful threat (even though they are).

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago

There was an unaccounted fanbase, yes.

What catalyzed it was them not being welcome anywhere they could blow off steam.

So maybe, again, mocking them is not the way, but on the contrary, almost a repetition of that.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Nah. Democrats' "mockery" are but gentle ribbing compared to the cuntish shit Trump spews daily.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 months ago

Trump's output is just sewage, which makes it less harmful than something which is interpreted and repeated by rather intelligent people.

Let's please remember that the Republican party was responsible for a pole of actually valid ideologies (something like "RFK minus mental impairment"), the worst effect they have is that those ideologies are not represented by anyone practically electable. What they replace them with is the second worst effect.

Mockery by its essence may very easily spill at those ideas.

Discourse in politics should be respectful. Even if it's not that now. That's not touching upon the possibility of degrading into a single-party system, seeing how GOP is sinking.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

I mean, we already knew the entire reason he ran in the first place was because Obama made a joke about him publicly at a political dinner.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 2 months ago (3 children)

How is the DNC this slow and clueless?

You're telling me that we could have been rid of him years ago if these dummies had just been parroting all of us making fun of him on social media?

How are these giant conventions with billions and billions behind them so dumb?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago

Because their plan at the time was to allow (or assist) him to be propped up under the belief Clinton would then be a shoo-in. Which is a completely moronic strategy because if you lose you're absolutely fucked.

They probably never want to actually keep him from being a candidate because it means their candidates just need to meet the barest of minimums to be viable.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 2 months ago

Because they assumed that the moral high ground would net them more voters than joining in the mud-slinging. "They go low, we go high" is a quite noble sentiment that should appeal to decent people to vote for them, if for no other reason than to keep the rude man-child out of office. They hoped that even the apathetic non-voters would be moved to cast a vote against the Temper-Tantrump.

It didn't work, as we know now, but I can't fault them for remembering the times when class and dignity mattered and hoping to extend those times.

Harris' team seems to have learned that lesson. Here's to hoping this actually works better.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Because the establishment ones are old as fuck and refuse to learn. Judging from the recent dnc, they're letting young and progressive faces do some work which is fantastic. Maybe they learned, maybe Pelosi wants to focus on insider trading. Either way 🤷

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Or so many of them died they can't influence policy anymore.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago

I doubt it, but feinstein kicking the bucket did lower the average age in congress by about 100 years so there's that.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 2 months ago (1 children)

They are just now learning this

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 months ago

Dems are just now learning to be mean like their opponents have been for decades

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