Yeah as an assistant for a bunch of 1st yearers at university I am sooo going to recommend Zotero
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Mendeley also works ok ๐ซก but I still add them mostly in the end lol just need yo put " [that really important paper]" and then do it after
If anyone is choosing between them I'd advise going with Zotero because it's an open source project. No chance of it suddenly shutting down or changing the terms of service.
I write monstrous documents (hundreds of pages). Zotero is all I use. It's ridiculously simple and you CAN SHARE REFERENCE WITH OTHER PEOPLE SO THEY DONT HAVE TO ENTER THEM.
This might not seem like a big deal, but I can get junior to prep a doc and share reference, or just enter references for me before I start writing and it saves a pile of time. Further, I can call references that my colleagues have entered.
eMacs + orgmode + zotero + latex
I just do Auctex instead of orgmode, but this is the way.
Admittedly Iโm half a decade out of academia and these days I do most of my communication in PowerPoint
Use Zotero
...jesus-tapdancing-christ-on-a-cracker, batman! How have I never heard of this?! I just pulled up a few videos on Zotero and this shit looks amazing!
I'm a semester into nursing school, and I know the higher we push that degree up, the more writing - and more strict with citations - the content becomes.
I'm downloading the shit out of this.
Thank you so much for making that your title!!
It's kinda fucked up that they don't teach this to freshman college students first thing as part of basic media literacy.
Same goes for teaching version control such as git to anyone writing or collaborating on complex text (not necessarily even code). https://medium.com/@RichHosek/github-for-writers-an-introduction-8cec9d9ece2
Granted, Google docs already has built in versioning, but git works better offline and works with any text editor.
Zotero is awesome, and I'd also recommend the browser extension with an account. Account is free, but it'll let you save any web sources with all the metadata you need and sync it to the main program.
Zotero in combination with LaTeX and Biber have saved me so much time. Especially when I had a crazy professor who would make last minute changes to style requirements. I remember we had a paper to write that they initially said "Just cite with whatever format you want, it's fine as long as they info is there." Cool, write my ten pages or whatever with footnotes containing short citations and full citations available in the bibliography at the end. The night before the paper was due, "Actually, I need all papers to use APA citations or you'll be docked points.". No problem, just change my citation style at the top of my LaTeX doc and tell it to reprocess the paper, all the citations fixed in about 5 seconds, without even needing to learn the ins and outs of APA formatting.
Dude it is blowing my mind how good this software is. This semester has like 30 or so different drugs we need to read up scattered in these weekly worksheets. All the info we plug in needs to be cited. Was the same last semester and those friggin things took FOREVER to finish. This semester... I've been doing pretty much nothing but those since my last post. They're done. For the entire semester... which just started. They're fucking DONE! All the in-text citations... *poof* there they are! All the full citations at the end of the document... *poof* all there, correctly formatted and in the correct order.
That was days of work last semester. I just got it all done in 6 hours.
BRUH!!
Use zotfile extension (or equivalent since the v7 is not backward compatible) and it'll save your time managing those pesky pdf too.
Thanks for the tip - will do!
My boss usually adds references by hand. I think he's just crazy.
Jesus. Does he work by candlelight too?
Yeah, it' pretty surprising to me that people I consider so smart are technologically inept.
thing about that is references are added and taken away as you change the paper, read something else, whatnot. What I start with and what I end with can be pretty much separate papers.
Use latex.
But zotero deals with that just fine. If you remove a citation from the text, the reference at the end will be removed as well. and each new citation will be added normally.
Oh yeah sorry. I did not mean to say the software can't handle it. Its more psychological for me like I want to do it when the paper is where it should be and lets forget about those roads we went down we shall not speak of :)
It's pretty much abandonware, but the original mendeley software is the bomb. Starting to play with afforai and it seems interesting.
Uhhh, they just released the v7 tho?
The new one is severely crippled. It's just a web shell. I forget when they switched over but I think it was when Elselvier bought them. At the same time they dropped their phone app which was a real bummer. It's obvious that it's more of a side project now than a serious app.
Yup, messed up all my workflow when they changed the plugin