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Let's put it this way; when Microsoft announced its plans to start adding features to Windows 10 once again, despite the operating system's inevitable demise in October 2025, everyone expected slightly different things to see ported over from Windows 11. Sadly, the latest addition to Windows 10 is one of the most annoying changes coming from Windows 11's Start menu.

Earlier this year, Microsoft introduced a so-called "Account Manager" for Windows 11 that appears on the screen when you click your profile picture on the Start menu. Instead of just showing you buttons for logging out, locking your device or switching profiles, it displays Microsoft 365 ads. All the actually useful buttons are now hidden behind a three-dot submenu (apparently, my 43-inch display does not have enough space to accommodate them). Now, the "Account Manager" is coming to Windows 10 users.

The change was spotted in the latest Windows 10 preview builds from the Beta and Release Preview Channels. It works in the same way as Windows 11, and it is disabled by default for now because the submenu with sign-out and lock buttons does not work.

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I have to use a windows 11 machine for work, and it genuinely surprises me how terrible it is. I don’t understand the opposition to local accounts - if I’m working somewhere with public WiFi/capture portal, I have to use my phone as a hotspot first.

The PIN log in seems to roll a random number and decide each morning whether it is going to work or not.

I also got a laptop with 11 on it for gaming. So much spyware I’ve had to uninstall, configuring anything is a nightmare. I was trying to adjust my mouse sensitivity/figure out why the scroll wheel is either 0 or to the moon, but even when you dig into the control panel, half the settings are missing.

I also had to turn off my WiFi and google commands to make a local account, because otherwise Microsoft accounts are mandatory.

Every change seems to make the experience actively worse for the user.

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[–] [email protected] 28 points 2 months ago (5 children)

Earlier this year, Microsoft introduced a so-called "Account Manager" for Windows 11 that appears on the screen when you click your profile picture on the Start menu. Instead of just showing you buttons for logging out, locking your device or switching profiles, it displays Microsoft 365 ads. All the actually useful buttons are now hidden behind a three-dot submenu.

How the fuck are people OK with this?!

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 months ago

How to avoid: right click the start icon (or press win + x) and go to "Shut down or sign out" that way.

I try not using the Windows start menu anymore because I hate seeing the little "notification" bubble on my profile, when dismissing it it returns within a few days!
Yes Microsoft, I am aware I cancelled 365. Thanks for reminding me why I did so.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 2 months ago (1 children)

What are you gonna do about it? Install Linux?

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago (3 children)

Didn't microsoft kill major updates for win10 in 22h2

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 months ago

"Well yes, but actually no"

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[–] [email protected] 29 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Well, I was gonna run win10 until its service life ends next year. I guess MS want to speed up the timeline a little.

Arch here I come.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Join the free side. We have penguins.

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Learning Linux gets more tempting every day. Either that or government needs to pass laws against shit like this but I doubt that will ever happen.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 2 months ago (3 children)

Let me give you a tip. Theres nothing to "learn" it's just a different way of clicking on some things. If all your gonna do is use steam and Internet browser just do it. There is nothing magical. Just use popOS or Ubuntu. They're made for ease of use.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Mint is great for beginners IMO

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 months ago

I use Mint on all my devices right now. Mint is great! My favorite part being it's an operation system that stays out of your way.

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Queue everyone downgrading to Windows 8 in 3, 2, 1.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 months ago

inb4 all windows versions get ads

[–] [email protected] 20 points 2 months ago (2 children)

No no no, you want Linux desktop. Install Oracle VirtualBox and play with the different linux desktop distros and find the right one that's best for you. It's fun. It's not filled with spyware and adware and isn't bloated with Microsoft's crazy antics. And, it's free. Once it's installed check out this: https://github.com/tycrek/degoogle to de-herpes your internet experience and 👍

[–] [email protected] 13 points 2 months ago (4 children)

Or just use Hyper-V since it's natively available and one should refrain from touching Oracle with a ten-foot pole. I know it's just a means to an end but better to avoid bad vendors if at all possible.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 months ago

There once was a time when I would have recommended VMWare, since Workstation is now free for personal use and HyperV is missing crucial direct hardware throughput, but... It's shit now. Doesn't work properly under W11.

Why does every tech company seem to have reached the 'collapse' part of enshittification simultaneously? Couldn't they have staggered it a little?

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Every time I see crap like this makes me even happier I ditched it a year and a half ago. If you switch to Linux and started with mint but don't like it, give PopOs a test drive. It's been flawless for me.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago (10 children)

My main issue is my home computer is for gaming. Have you gamed on Linux? If so, are most games compatible?

[–] [email protected] 13 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I've gamed on Linux for the past 5 years. If you use Steam, most stuff works out of the box after you enable a single setting. Now that the linux gaming community is growing it's easier to find workarounds for the games that don't work. The only games that are hopelessly broken right now are games with intrusive anti-cheats that don't support Linux. You can head over to protondb.com and check compatibility status for your games, including workarounds when necessary.

If you don't use Steam, then I'm not sure. Last time I played non-Steam games there was more troubleshooting and tweaking required but it's been a couple of years and I don't know the current state. It's worth noting that Valve's compatibility layer, Proton, is open-source and based on other open-source projects. There's work currently being done to port the functionality outside of Steam. Hopefully, this will mean that in the future all launchers will behave similarly.

But that's just the software side of things. Don't forget to check how your hardware works on Linux as well.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 months ago

Use Heroic launcher for Epic games, it works great for everything I've put through it (including anti-cheat riddled stuff like GTA5 and Fall Guys). Heroic also supports GOG games. Lutris does the rest but can be a bit hit and miss compared to Steam/Heroic.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

All I do is watch some vids and game. I have only come across one game I can't get to play and it's flight simulator x. If steam says it'll play on steam deck, you're 100% golden. If it says unsupported, do a quick web search for protondb and search the game there. I've played a few that steam said wouldn't work and they do. As far as how well they play, it's been awesome, no complaints. I'm a linux newbie and don't know shit and it's been painless. I did try mint and nobara, and had issues trying to get mint to play games, and nobara worked good but after a week I lost my sound and I liked the way the workspaces works much better with popOs

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Appreciate the time taken to type a response. Did you follow any videos or guides of any sort? It's been a loooong time since I've setup dual boot on a system and I'm wondering if complexity has been simplified at all.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago

P r o t o n

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago

Only issue I've had is helldivers 2 being slightly finicky and needing to delete the config file occasionally. Otherwise 10/10

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago

It's a complex issue and kind of depends on your games and your hardware and your software. In general, you can definitely count out major competitive multiplayer titles that rely on aggressive kernel-level anti-cheat software, since that is essentially spyware and it's incompatible with Linux. Furthermore, very new titles often pose problems, as the primary target audience is always Windows. Linux compatibility is seldom considered by big publishers, and as such the FOSS community has to pick up the slack. With the release of the Steam Deck, Valve released a custom version of Wine called Proton, which acts as a compatibility layer between Windows and Linux specifically for Steam Games, but even that kind of is hit and miss. There's a website called protondb that is trying to categorize game compatibility but even good rankings (gold / diamond) usually require some small amount of fiddling with settings.

Overall, if you want to have a single-click to launch games experience, you're sadly still bound to Windows most of the time. But if you have the patience to experiment and learn new things, there's way more tools and possibilities than ever before. Just be prepared to troubleshoot some things.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

somehow I guess it's still not common knowledge yet but basically everything that doesn't need a kernel anti cheat will work. or maybe not newer dotnet crap but usually those aren't games. mods and cheats are hit and miss and require some setup, but mostly work anyway. for most games protondb lists what works with and without tinkering but even some of the stuff listed as not working actually does in my experience. pcgamingwiki info is still usefull for a lot fixes to known problems on all platforms.

amd graphics should work out of the box but sometimes the newest cards have issues for a while after release. Any modern distro will not need extra setup as long as the maintainers aren't too far behind.

nvidia requires manual intervention for most distros but some have installers that default to nvidia graphics. expect some jank, there's a lot of weird shit that can go wrong with kernel modules not matching the kernel version among other things.

other hardware can also be problematic and people like myself who have been selecting hardware specifically for linux compatibility may give the idea that nothing is wrong.

I recommend nobara or bazzite for gaming setups that will require little to no addititonal work to play games and most hardware that is possible to work just working out of the box or with a guided config.

If you want to go with a non gaming oriented distro (trust me don't unless you do it on a spare comp or vm for experimentation), then debian, or mint debian, one of the easy arch installers even, but don't do ubuntu. Weird shit will inevitability happen eventually and the old guides and crap ai articles with outdated information from the mail order ubuntu cd days will make it way too confusing to fix unless you are a web search sorceror.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago

Popos is Ubuntu and has been my main driver for gaming for a few years now, with an nvidia 3080ti even.

Its been more reliable than my other setup with nvidia and endeavour.

I dont think its worth generalizing entire groups of distros, because that implies they all behave similarly.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago

I also only game on my home PC and I've been using it for over a year now with Linux. I play CS 2, WOWS and Battletech mainly but check protondb.com for your games. My kids are also using Linux and they also were able to play everything they wanted.

There are a few AAA games with cheat protection that won't work. Other than that: It's awesome and you feel the freedom instantly!

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 months ago

Since Valve released the Steam Deck, which runs on Linux, there is an increasing number of games that are compatible. In some cases you can also emulate windows, or just keep it on your computer and use a dual boot system (even tho Microsoft messed up big time with this kind of installation recently)

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago

I don't think it's most yet, but it's improving fast thanks to the Valve Steam Deck. Bazzite is probably the distro to look at for a machine that's primarily for gaming; it's based on the Steam Deck OS, but works on more machines. There are some high-profile games like Fortnite that won't run on it, but a lot of stuff will, especially if it doesn't rely on any fancy anti-cheat stuff.

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