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Similar to the time Soviet Russia wanted to join the anti-Soviet alliance which was trying to pretend wasn't made to plot against the soviets.

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

If they do, I surely wouldn't trust Spez to be acting in good faith. I would expect them to Embrace, Extend, and Extinguish the fediverse

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 months ago

It cannot because of copyright constraints. It sells it's data to others.

But look, if Reddit did, at least people could use third party and free apps.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Would be among the first to suggest a reddit-defederation pact to be honest.

Kinda like how peeps on Mastodon/Misskey/etc. have their anti-threads pact.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Reddit federation would not happen before Steve Huffman's exit from the company, and given that he is solely responsible for the changes that made Reddit unusable to many, I'd actually encourage federation given that after that happened, Reddit would become just another instance with no API control or ability to affect the goings on of any other part of the ecosystem of apps, servers, communities or even the Lemmy codebase.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago

Reddit would become just another instance with no API control

Being that large of an instance gives a lot of api control all by itself. Theoretically Chrome is just another browser and member of WHATWG. in practice, if they implement something it immediately becomes a de facto standard. Reddit would be the same.

I wouldn't bet on Huffman's exit doing anything of consequence either. Reddit is now under the control of investors who want a return. One way or another, monetisation of users will increase.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 months ago (1 children)

The only community I cared about on refit was r/Korea because I was a new migrant here. But I got banned for posting a link to my own website where I uploaded this video https://tube.jeena.net/w/aBpFLKq3x2r9R3aSrBtece which I myself recorded. They said I should have uploaded it to YouTube instead and was banned for ever.

Now I try to build up [email protected] and it's not going great, basically only lurkers there :D but that's OK. I'm still so but hurt about being banned that I don't want them here anyway.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 months ago

No just a posting ban on my username. But I'm not an asshole to circumvent it, if they block me then they don't want me there and then they don't deserve me contributing there.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Reddit clearly spends like $6 per year on feature engineering so this would require around one millennia to implement.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago

It would give me new respect for reddit’s leadership, given the tight grip they have on their content at the moment.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 3 months ago

This would be a horrible thing because, even if we get more communities here, reddit now would have the vast majority of the fediverse in their hands. It would only be a matter of time before reddit would pull a microsoft to try and extinguish it.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 months ago

Long as none of them were given mod powers, nbd

[–] [email protected] 11 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I'll be honest, I'd be happy. I know Reddit as a whole sucks, but there are individual communities that still hold value. I miss active communities for niche crafts, I miss fandoms, and I miss actual life-changing shit like trans DIY, especially for countries outside the US.

I mainly stopped using Reddit because they killed third-party apps. If I could access Reddit from here, that'd be a pretty sweet deal for me.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago

I agree, as much as I hate Reddit's leadership and a lot of the toxicity of the hivemind, it will be a long time before anything reaches the level of niche communities it has with a critical mass of users and I miss some of them.

Sometimes you just want to geek out about something small with the 40 people across the planet that actually care about it.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 3 months ago

You're looking for Lemmy.world, and the answer is that it swallows up the larger part of the main federated instances, and becomes one of the worst instances.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 months ago

A lemmyversary? Or Day of Creation? Creaday?

[–] [email protected] 10 points 3 months ago

They would block lemmygrad, so I don't really have to care. Being on lemmygrad makes that stuff self selective. πŸŽ‰

[–] [email protected] 10 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Everyone would likely defederate from them, much in the same way that you all rushed to close the shutters upon Threads.

I also don't ever see this happening, unless Spez fucks up with Reddit so badly that it sparks a mass user exodus, much in the same way that Digg v4 sank any hopes of Kevin Rose remaining a successful tech entrepreneur.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago

I haven't heard of that name in a long time.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago

I feel like the difference with Threads is Meta is owned by a much larger threat that can’t be trusted not to use Embrace Extend Extinguish in some evil genius way that ends up working.

Reddit’s owned by some dummy that did a lot of damage to his own platform but isn’t known to be smart enough or have the resources to threaten the fediverse.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 months ago

I'd use it again from my home instance. It would be a show of good faith that they're letting people integrate with their API again, even if that API is just the standard activity pub one.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Wdym, reddit already joined fediverse, it's called lemmy.world.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 months ago

Hey! As a person who used to use reddit but got tired of how terrible it was then moved to the first Lemmy instance I could find, I... Agree? I'm not really sure.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 months ago

I got banned from r/gaming for shit talking pedos. I don’t want these people here.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 months ago (1 children)

The amount of bots, spam and other problematic content would be overwhelming for admins to moderate, most instances would just defederate on day 0.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago

And progress in moderating tools would be made.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

I'm here mostly because the implementation is superior. If Reddit was accessible directly from here, it'd be a total win-win imho.

It would also be a lose-lose for them, as it would open up their data to free-of-charge use via API without any benefit for them -- so it's not going to happen.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 3 months ago

Poorly, I left for a reason.

[–] [email protected] 36 points 3 months ago

Lemmy.world already exists unfortunately

I do miss some of the subreddits though

[–] [email protected] 10 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Federating with Reddit completely idiotic for any Lemmy instance.

They will only gain limited traffic, and their userbase will be swamped by Redditors.

There is zero incentive for Lemmy admins to do this, and huge incentives not to do this.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago

Lemmy userbase is already at least 90% former redditors...

[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 months ago

I would love it because there are subreddits I use a lot on reddit that don't have an active equivalent on lemmy at all.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 3 months ago

Believe it or not, straight to jail.

For real tho I like this place better.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 3 months ago

That's the same as asking how we would feel if Facebook decided to join the fediverse. The way instances reacted to that, would be the way they'd react to reddit, or twitter, or any of the enshitified tech giants.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I don't think they would do that unless Lemmy continues to grow to a point where it challenges Reddit. Then it becomes a technical issue. I don't think they can do that. It was one thing for threads to do it, being designed with that in mind from day 1, but it's completely different for Reddit to do it. There are so many features that just wouldn't make the jump, and so much content that would need to be reworked.

If they were going to do it, it would most likely be a clean break where you just can't access old Reddit content on Lemmy, but all their new stuff would be accessible.

I also just don't see them giving away their content like that after cracking down on the API how they did.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago

Sure Reddit and Lemmy are different technical stacks, but neither is doing anything particularly unique or complicated.

If Reddit wanted to federate it could. It would take some work but it would be an achievable task in a reasonable amount of time.

Perhaps scaling or stability issues. I'm not sure the Fediverse is ready to handle the number of actions a site like Reddit handles. Then again I'm not super well versed on that part of the Lemmy software, so maybe it would be fine.

[–] [email protected] 30 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I came to Lemmy because I disliked what Steve Huffman did to reddit.

I’d be completely fine with the users being here. I do miss the whole active community for every niche little thing part. If if federates that’d be neat.

It won’t, since greedy Steve Huffman can’t sell the fediverse to Google while screwing 3rd party devs and users that make it what it is. But I’d welcome it.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 3 months ago

I miss the reddit I loved. Life is not the same anymore. I can't just google for anything reddit and find sources. The community was on a level never seen before or after. I too welcome all the people who made it great. Bots and ads and ads and ad bots can have their wasteland.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (2 children)

"Anti-slave owner posting is back on the menu comrades!"

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 months ago

John Brown was correct

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago

anti-slave slave owner club

[–] [email protected] 17 points 3 months ago (1 children)

It would be the death of this side of the federated internet. The amount of content it would generate once federated would crush existing servers. You would have to defederate or face near instant storage shortages. The federated que would take years to sync.

Anyway, it wouldn't happen because they would need to transmit real vote counts instead of fuzzy vote counts. You would be able to see how every single person on reddit voted. Which would simply expose the vote manipulation going on there.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 months ago

It would instantly de-fed from all the cool people, all the shitty leminitors probably would be reabsorbed back into fed-Reddit and those Reddit clone lemmy comms would die.

[–] [email protected] 42 points 3 months ago

We already have Lemmy.World no need for two of them

[–] [email protected] 23 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

The same way we dealt with threads. Defederation.

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