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Biden’s voice was strong and clear, and the crowd was far warmer to him as an outgoing president

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago) (7 children)

That's because it didn't take place at 8pm. Even people 20 years younger than Biden almost can't stay up later than 8pm.

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[–] [email protected] 104 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

“I’ve got a lot to do. I intend to get it done. It’s been the honour of my lifetime to serve as your president. I love the job, but I love my country more.”

Attaboy, Joe. Good man.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 8 points 4 weeks ago

It’s a silent u

[–] [email protected] 83 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago) (5 children)

I think the biggest difference is that it is far easier to recite a static speach he has practiced 100 times than it is to dynamically adapt to a live debate.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 4 weeks ago (3 children)

I think the difference is that he was recovering from a bad cold during the debate.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago) (1 children)

Yeah. That theory actually seems plausible but I’m very very happy he had that cold.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

They were both bad presidents. Nixon was just outwardly corrupt. JFK was not only a coke head, but also sort of an idiot that allowed the CIA to commit war crimes under his watch in Latin America.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

Think you hit the wrong comment chain my dude.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 8 points 4 weeks ago

That joke was based on Nixon losing a live, televised debate to JFK and looking physically terrible during it because he had a cold.

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[–] [email protected] 121 points 4 weeks ago (3 children)

It's one event with a month of prep time and a teleprompter. Biden hasn't lost all faculties, but he can't be this "on" every day for the next 3 months while also being president. This is carefully curated to his strengths, making him look good, which is great, but it's no sign he could be president in 4 years.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 weeks ago (3 children)

Sure.

Though something no one is mentioning is if he felt like he had to stay on to do the right thing, and made a very difficult decision to step down, part of this energy may be a relief we've all felt at one point or another.

I just can't shake the feeling that Biden never really wanted the job. He took it because he was convinced he was needed to oust Trump.

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[–] [email protected] 28 points 4 weeks ago (2 children)

And it's not like he delivered flawlessly, he still has at least one part where he seemed to get lost, and the crowd covered for him.

Did have real mixed feelings about the "Thank You Joe" chant. It was kind of wholesome in a way, but I imagine it feels bad to have been pushed out like he was.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago)

I imagine it feels bad to have been pushed out like he was.

I'm sure it feels bad but he shouldn't have been running again in the first place. The dead horse has been beaten to powder but he is way too old to be running a country - especially 4 years from now.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 4 weeks ago (3 children)

I hope he recognizes that he needed to do it. Even in 2020, "making" him run (I put making in quotes because you can't make a person run for office) felt like elder abuse. That is even more true now.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 4 weeks ago (2 children)

They needed him to run to stop a Bernie nomination. So... he kind of was "made to", in that he also agreed that Bernie shouldn't get the nomination.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 weeks ago (2 children)

And I'm in agreement with Biden, I think. I love Bernie and think he would have made a great president, but with how close 2020 was for Biden, I doubt he would have won the election. In fact I think part of why Kamala's doing well is for the same reason that Biden did well in 2020: Trump wanted to run against Bernie in 2020, and he wanted to run against Biden in 2024. Trump struggles when things don't go the way he expects them to, and I remember in 2020 a lot of trump's arguments were about how Biden was too far left, almost like he wanted to be making those arguments about Bernie instead

[–] [email protected] 14 points 4 weeks ago

Polls showed Bernie had the largest lead in a head to head against Trump in 2016 and 2020 iirc. He's the most popular politician in the US.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 weeks ago

I think it'd be hard to look at the current state of things and think he made a mistake. At least he seems willing enough to get along.

I've no shortage of criticism for the man and his actions, but this one I can applaud.

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