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[–] nucleative@lemmy.world 68 points 9 months ago (22 children)

I feel like we should at least consider that DJI is a mainland Chinese company and nearly all drone innovation in the past decade has originated there. They are no strangers to extreme manufacturing or advanced automated drone technology.

[–] unexposedhazard@discuss.tchncs.de 43 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Quadcopters are actually insanely simple devices. I dont think the west would have any issue making hundreds of thousands of them without the help of china. Maybe the chips could be an issue but im sure taiwan would be happy to provide.

[–] Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world 23 points 9 months ago (3 children)

The future of drone warfare will be determined by software. That's the one thing where the US still have a huge lead.

[–] arin@lemmy.world -1 points 9 months ago

Dji has the best drone software as well...

[–] unexposedhazard@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 9 months ago (2 children)

In terms of future AI stuff maybe, but for current year practical purposes there is no relevant difference in software capabilities for controlling a bunch of drones in the way it is being done in ukraine.

[–] chonglibloodsport@lemmy.world 14 points 9 months ago (2 children)

The Ukrainians are controlling the drones one at a time. One drone, one pilot, operating remotely over wireless link. They’re having an absolutely devastating effect on Russia’s troops and equipment.

Autonomy is the future. It’s how you get to thousands or even millions of drones without the need for millions of human pilots. Trying to attack into a space which is defended by millions of drones absolutely will be a hellscape!

[–] aodhsishaj@lemmy.world 2 points 9 months ago

Swarms are the next evolution. PTI is the main blocker

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[–] Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world 4 points 9 months ago

They're already working on autonomous drones. That's still in its early stages but that will be a decisive factor in the future.

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[–] superkret@feddit.org 23 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (5 children)

Millions of inexperienced soldiers stuck on ships facing thousands of drones coming from all directions -
I...don't want to imagine the absolute, pure horror that would be.
The fact that the two current superpowers are actually gearing up for war with each other makes my blood freeze.
This would cause global suffering on par with World War 2. Except in World War 2, most battles were still fought primarily with glorified armored tractors, rifles, shovels and horse-drawn artillery.
Oh, and now, there's the added danger of a nuclear escalation that will literally bomb us all back into the stone age.

[–] Canadian_Cabinet@lemmy.ca 11 points 9 months ago

This is nothing different to what they've been doing for the last 20 years

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[–] Aurenkin@sh.itjust.works 31 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Ukraine has had massive success with naval drones which I would imagine to translate very well to the defence of Taiwan as well.

[–] frezik@midwest.social 15 points 9 months ago (1 children)

The difference between hypersonic missiles and drones is interesting, too. Hypersonics are something a major nation state needs a years long development program to make. They have some inherent issues, like having a limited maneuvering budget without burning themselves up. The response time of defenses are shorter, but existing Patriot missile batteries have managed to deal with them to at least some success.

Meanwhile, Ukraine attaches bombs to some fancy RC planes and sinks much of the Black Sea Fleet. IIRC, they're up to something like half of it by tonnage, and Russia likely has no way to replace some of the larger Soviet-era ships.

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