As non american I just discovered Mamdani and he seems like a legit dude who cares and has the energy to match. Wishing luck to New York friends here!
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You don’t mess with the Zohran.
This is why ranked choice has been banned in a lot of places. It breaks the duopoly.
The election here was the Democratic primary. It didn't cut the Democrats out of the loop.
Democrats hate progressives. The two would be separate parties in a sensible democracy, but in the legacy first-past-the-post American system, splitting the party while Republicans exist is political suicide. There are more progressives than center Democrats, but they are not as united as the core establishment Democrats are, which made any one of them irrelevant in primaries up to now. RCV has given them a real chance for the first time. For example by giving Lander votes to Mamdani in the instant runoff. The moment RCV got implemented, long-serving Democrats started suddenly getting kicked out in the primaries. This terrifies them, so Democrats will continue to fight against RCV in the future. Just look how both Cuomo and Adams will try to commit political murder-suicide now by running as independent in the general just so that the "official Democratic party nominee" would not win.
Ha ha, whoops I should read the articles.
Some good news for the week.
Someone is going to run as an independent in the general election. I really hope they aren’t able to rat fuck this win.
Honestly, Cuomo and Adams have the same target demographic: assholes. Everyone else backs Zohran
I hope I am wrong. But I have a fear that the knives are going to come out more so than they have already.
Guessing there will be a new appointment announced soon
What does vote splitting have to do with a Democratic primary?
The gist is what the other person said, but to expand on the the point I wanted to make: Whenever you (or, well, I) suggest that the left should antagonize the DNC, liberals come out of the woodwork saying that splitting the anti-conservative vote will only lead to conservatives winning and that instead leftists should vote in primaries. The idea is that if the leftist candidate wins the liberals will respect party norms and support the winner of the primary, providing a safer path to progress. Here we have the liberal favorite completely shitting on party norms and running as an independent even though he lost the primary to a leftist, so the whole proposition of a united front against the right through primaries falls apart. This would fatally discredit the idea that primaries are a viable substitute for a leftist third party if liberals cared about facts.
The liberal candidate who lost (Cuomo) has announced he is going to run in the general as an independent (which is in OP's link), instead of supporting the nominee. So Cuomo primary voters may split from the Democratic nominee in the general for Cuomo.
I wonder if the party will fund the candidate its voters wanted or if they will fund cuomo.
Oh this news made me smile. Let's go NYC!
Sure would be nice if this is a sign of things to come
Mamdani destroyed Cuomo in the first round of RCV, when it was expected to be much closer. This gives me a hesitant hope that nationally the voters want real change within the Democratic party. Let's just hope this isn't a fluke, and the technofascists have really awoken a huge progressive voting bloc.
The squad was born in the original Trump administration so it shouldn't be that surprising to see a return of these kinds of progressive candidates.
If the sexual predators coalition had won this thing the party might have collapsed. So this is good for the party and the city.
I mean, yay, but...
an estimated 80% of ballots counted.
That's just the first round, right? Does he not understand how RCV works? Unless his team already knows who everyone's second and third choices are, it's not remotely over yet. What am I missing?
He saw the writing on the wall and decided to make a strategic exit. A definitive defeat now would permanently end his career as a politician, but by conceding he leaves the door open to possible future efforts like a presidential bid.
A definitive defeat now would permanently end his career as a politician
Based on the results reported that's already in the bag. There's no doubt he can't govern with what his current support looks like.
A historically massive over performance of the polls and how the candidate (Lander) who is third on the first round is also a progressive
Few polls had Zohran winning. Even the polling that had Zohran winning had him losing the first round vote by a fair amount and only flipping to win in the 7th round. No polling had him winning the 1st round. He's just won the first round by like 7% of the vote. He's not far from 50% of the vote outright on round one
We won't have the official results from the later ranked choice rounds until July 1st, but just ~60% of Lander's #2 votes alone would push him above 50% even if all candidates below Lander went 100% Cuomo for #2. Lander cross endorsed Zohran and told his supporters to rank Zohran #2
He must have had polling or results that showed he wasn't picked high enough on enough ballots to win
From https://www.thecity.nyc/2025/06/24/mayoral-election-first-round-results-cuomo-mamdani/:
In this ranked-choice primary election, Lander cross-endorsed Mamdani as his number-two pick, meaning that many voters who selected Lander are likely to send additional votes to Mamdani in the final tally.
So I'm guessing Cuomo didn't think round two was going to do him any favors.
Thank fuck
Hopefully he wins the general
Adams doesn't stand a chance
Wtf happened to Adams? Sure, he was under criminal corruption indictments, then cozied up to Trump and got "pardoned" (charges dismissed). But then he was supposed to be on the Democratic primary ballot, his picture was even in the official voter guide from a month ago, but on election day his name wasn't even in the list? Now he's apparently running as independent incumbent instead? What a booger!
EDIT: Both Cuomo and Adams are intending to run as independent in the general? WhyTF do we even have primaries then! If they are not going to play by their own rules of their special little club, let's just extend Ranked Choice Voting to cover the general and scrap the primaries altogether!
WhyTF do we even have primaries then!
So progressives don't get any ideas. As I said elsewhere in the thread: I better not hear another liberal saying we can't split the vote again.
As I said elsewhere in the thread: I better not hear another liberal saying we can't split the vote again.
Do you actually understand the difference between FPTP and ranked choice?
The NYC general is FPTP, and Cuomo is running anyway despite having lost the primary. Neither me nor the other person are criticizing anyone for running in the primary.
They're talking about the general election, which is FPTP, and losing primary moderates refusing the result and trying again in the general.
WhyTF do we even have primaries then! If they are not going to play by their own rules of their special little club, let’s just extend Ranked Choice Voting to cover the general and scrap the primaries altogether!
Because the US doesn't really have a true democracy. It's always going to be weighted against the actual interests of the people. The more success candidates the Zohran have, the more the established politicians will stack the deck against them. The good thing is that the more the game is rigged the more obvious it all becomes.
The article says Adams is running as an independent, and that Cuomo has the option and is looking into it! It's not decided.
He's probably trying to save face; he's on record in May saying he's running no matter the result of the primary.