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[–] [email protected] 5 points 7 months ago

This is why you shouldn't use any "smart" devices as locks or to control anything important.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 7 months ago

*Starts microwave open*

Someone said jamming?

[–] [email protected] 32 points 7 months ago

Idk if it's worth trusting articles from this site after the fake ddos toothbrush article.

Nonetheless, I can't imagine crime not getting more sophisticated as time moves on.

POE cameras are the way.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 7 months ago

Sounds like a good way to get the feds interested in your otherwise not very notable property crime.

[–] [email protected] 33 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Use POE Ethernet. Problem solved.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago (3 children)

Quick question: What advantages do PoE cameras have over offline CCTV cameras?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago

Digital. Can use regular computer as recorder.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 7 months ago (1 children)

They’re essentially the same, but you only need to run one wire to them instead of two. The PoE means you don’t need to worry about getting power to the camera, which historically has been one of the more expensive parts of installation; It usually means tying into existing electrical boxes if they’re nearby, or pulling new lines if they’re not. But with PoE, everything is on that one cable.

There’s also the advantage that a networked system can be controlled remotely. Things like pan/tilt/focus/etc can be remotely controlled via Ethernet. So if you have configuration options with the camera, you don’t need to physically access it with a ladder just to make those adjustments.

As for the actual video, it’s not much different; Everything lands at a centralized hub, which then records the video or streams it to a remote server, which then records it. There are advantages and disadvantages to either, and it’s typically advised to do both. Because with a local server, once a thief gets physical access to it, they can do whatever they want with it. You were relying on that video footage, but now it’s useless because the thief took all of your hard drives. With a remote system, the big disadvantage is that it’s reliant on your internet connection. So all a potential thief has to do is cut the line going into your house.

For a truly “secure” system, the general consensus is two local servers and a remote server. Have one local server accessible, in something obvious like a server rack. Then have another redundant server somewhere else, which is more hidden and more difficult to access. And put power backups on those local servers, so they can’t simply cut the power at your breaker panel. The hope is that even if they cut your internet and/or power, and destroy the first local server, you still have the second local server. This is notably easier to do with a PoE system, due to the aforementioned lack of power runs to the cameras. Just put your network on the power backup, and the cameras will continue to function even after the power is cut. But that’s hella expensive, and would typically be reserved for enthusiasts, paranoid apocalypse preppers, and/or rich people.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago

Bookmarking this comment for future references. Thank you!

[–] [email protected] 4 points 7 months ago

Easier and cheaper to install and maintain.

Only needs a single cable that can come from any PoE switch.

CCTV is just out-dated.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago (5 children)

Any recommendations for PoE cameras?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago

I've been happy with Hikvision recording to my Qnap NAS. I've heard some bad ethical things about their company, but the cam works well.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago

Check out Reolink, they have a lot of package systems and lots of deals. Watch some videos on the installation process.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago

I've set family up with a lorex system, setup was pretty straightforward and it works well. No monthly subscription fees rock.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 7 months ago (2 children)

UniFi Protect is outstanding. You need to buy one of their NVRs or cloud gateways to use it, but it's incredible & wouldn't want another system for our house/family business

[–] [email protected] 0 points 7 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 0 points 7 months ago

Yes. If that's not for you, that's fine! If that isn't a dealbreaker, it's an exceptional platform

[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Didn't they accidentally send supposedly private video to the wrong users recently?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 7 months ago

Yes, there was an incident where ~1k people received push notifications that were intended for other accounts

Shitty, but they addressed the issue within 24hr, notified impacted users, and published a sitrep. They handled it extremely well imo, but also you could disable the cloud connection if it concerns you

https://community.ui.com/questions/Bug-Fix-Cloud-Access-Misconfiguration/fe8d4479-e187-4471-bf95-b2799183ceb7?ref=404media.co

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I use hikvision and the quality is great in low light. I haven't connected them to the internet since I use Frigate and Home Assistant to monitor the feeds.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 7 months ago

I put mine on an unconnected network attached to a connected desktop. Videos are written and uploaded to the cloud when motion is detected. ISpy is a good open source video system even if it is written in C#.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 7 months ago (2 children)

You could just add a small nonvolatile buffer to each camera if it’s not wired, such that if it loses connection with your home assistant server it will start recording. With 720p video and a 64gb flash storage you could, depending on encoding, store well over a day of footage. (Napkin math so could be wrong)

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago

720p is not a bitrate

[–] [email protected] 10 points 7 months ago

Many cameras only save recordings based off of motion triggers, so 64 gb goes a long way if most of the time there's no movement.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 7 months ago (2 children)

This goes without saying but obviously the most secure will be analog. Unfortunately that is neither accessible or worth the time and trouble for the average consumer.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 7 months ago

You know digital can be wired right? And analog doesnt mean secure, you can listen in and disable analog signals just as easy as digital ones.

These people are just using signal jammers you can buy on AliExpress. They can jam analog and digital it's just about what frequencies it blocks. However using them in North America is illegal.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

Huh? If anything it would probably be even easier to jam.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Not if it's wired. But the same could probably be said for wired ip cameras

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

IP anything is generally far more difficult to jam thanks to TCP/IP checking for acknowledgment the data arrived and trying again - at a slower speed which can handle more noise.

Our cameras at work use wifi and Ethernet and have an internal SD card - plus a built in coin cell battery that can run for a little while. Obviously not cheap though.

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