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Fun fact : it's my first ever post on any lemmy instance/community blob-no-thoughts ...which is messed up..

Okay tbh I don't know if I should have posted this some place else or if here is just fine oh-shit

So I'm brand new here, I've joined as lemm.ee was going to shut down. I only chose Hexbear because of how big and active it is, and of course for all its shade of leftism (being far left myself) but tbh that part was just a plus for me, what I wanted more was an opened enough instance, an inclusive one with enough peace of mind (not having to deal with unhinged/oppressing posts/comments daily).

But I started noticing that actually Hexbear had been defederated from some big instances like lemmy.world, upon trying to understand why I stumbled upon lemmy.world ~~BS~~ post explaining they did it for preemptive reasons (wtf ๐Ÿ’€), obviously I just dismissed lemmy.world entirely and continued enjoying my time here. But then I noticed other instances like Blahaj blocked Hexbear as well and a bunch of others, I never found out why.

Then, while trying to understand what's with all the defederating I stumbled upon a lot of negative noise against Hexbear, claiming you lot are doing some horrid stuff like war crimes denial, trolling, hate speech, spreading pro-Russian propaganda (like anti Ukrainian stuff don't misinterpret me here, I'm fine with anti-western views or western propaganda skepticism), so much so I don't really know if what I read was some kind of fascists trying to slander this place, or people confused about Hexbear political views, or if it's linked to some Hexbear history I'm not aware of... It's just weird because so far I haven't encountered anything I could hold against this instance, for all I've seen you're all sweet and making nice content, haven't seen anything unhinged, but what makes me uneasy is this defederating thing, I can't help but wonder why.

I'm really confused. Can someone explain to me what this is all about ? Is it just some right wing noise, some unknown drama or what ?

Edit (in case any of you see it): Thanks a lot everyone for all your answers, kind words, jokes, emojis and for being so welcoming. What you all said was very informative, and most of it I sadly expected. Having taken a liking to lemmy I knew that whatever I'd learn it'd be a cause for concern, it saddens me that several instances, big ones at that, would just make more room for the far right by suppressing leftists and spreading hate. As always in any such case I can't say I'm surprised but it worries and disgust me nonetheless. Anyway I'm glad I found this place :)

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[โ€“] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

its mostly just right wing noise, the the side of lemmy that mostly includes world is in general very liberal and right wing (in part because of admin moderation and another because most reddit users are libs/right wing) so they really dislike any opposing views, in the case of world we were preemptively defederated because one of the world admins at the time was a neolib that pushed for that.

nowdays its mostly just making strawman to get angry at since we arent federated with most of the big comms anyway and ml and grad arent that big to influence much, which is kinda funny because they have slowly turned against other kinda leftist instances like dbzero and midwestsocial as the next evil radicals

also we defed from blahaj because her admin refused to moderated ableism and transphobia against our users

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[โ€“] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago

We get dorks who come in and spout off lib nonsense, get well thought out and sourced rebuttals and keep doubling down until we start with the name calling. Anyone who actually engages constructively is treated just fine.

[โ€“] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I think the thing that makes other comms the angriest is that hexbear generally views Russia's actions in Ukraine as anti-imperialist and therefore worthy of support.

Other things that make them mad include full-throated support for modern-day China and Cuba, skepticism of the western narrative about North Korea and Venezuela, and support of the historical USSR, GDR, Yugoslavia, etc.

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[โ€“] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

of the main communist instances hexbear is the most active, has no downvotes, and has a culture of dunking
so when someone from another instance has an awful reactionary take, they tend to get mostly clowned on by a metric shitload of hexbears
this leads to wildly exaggerated and made up accusations because "i said something horrible and people yelled at me for it :(" doesn't really inspire sympathy

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[โ€“] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago (6 children)

they hate us for our freedom (to say that slaveowners deserved to die)

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[โ€“] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago

Oh yeah, I recall. You see, it's not merely the anti-imperialism (that includes against European vassals), but also the chapo attitude (calling bullshit on our political opponents), and the fact we are more numerous in posters, voices, and posts than lemmy.ml and lemmygrad.ml combined

[โ€“] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (3 children)

I haven't been here as long as many but it seriously is like an oasis of kindness for a queer leftist compared to any other online group I've seen. People aren't kind here to Nazis or nazi-adjacent posters.

People who complain about hexbear on other instances are nearly always liberal or further right trolls who come and post some obvious bullshit, get berated for sharing reactionary propaganda, then often get banned because they get mad and show their true racist or transphobic colors and start using slurs or generally become toxic.

Pretty much anyone I've ever seen come and argue in good faith, with a real misunderstanding or false info, or just something that they disagree with here will be met with reasonable clarification.

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[โ€“] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago (2 children)
[โ€“] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (9 children)

There's a contingent of power users/mods/admins that range from neoliberals to social Democrats/reformists, and view anyone more radical than the Democratic party/Bernie as red fash.

That does include anarchists if you have any heterodox opinions about Ukraine or refuse to engage in their red scare propaganda. they have been doing a smear campaign about the "tankie troika" of Lemmy servers for a while now.

They even have a snark comm for exactly that.

[โ€“] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Do you know the name of the comm?

[โ€“] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago

Oh, uh two come to mind, meanwhileongrad (the one with 'shit' instance) or Democratic Republic of Tankiejerk (both .world and db0zero)

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[โ€“] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago (3 children)

They even have a snark comm for exactly that.

I don't think it can get any more reddit than this

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[โ€“] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago

Scratched liberals who side with fascists got mad that hexbear is correct on like everything we say.

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