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cross-posted from: https://lemmy.world/post/18749281

The Wisconsin English teacher, Jordan Cernek, argues in the suit that the district violated his freedom of religion and free speech in mandating the use of the students' preferred names and pronouns.

A high school English teacher is suing a Wisconsin school district, alleging it did not renew his contract last year because he refused to use the preferred names of two transgender students.

Jordan Cernek's federal lawsuit alleges the Argyle School District violated his constitutional and civil rights to be free of religious discrimination and to be able to express himself according to his religious beliefs when it did not renew his contract because he refused to abide by a requirement that teachers use the names or pronouns requested by students.

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 months ago
  1. he deserves this

  2. this is a place where I'd like to be free of such discussions, even if just briefly. Please don't post such stuff over here again

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 months ago

Fuck that guy.

[–] [email protected] 52 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Back in the 90s, most of my teachers would ask the class on the first day if they had any (school appropriate) nicknames they prefer to be called.

Just make this a requirement.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 2 months ago (1 children)

My 6th grade teacher did exactly this, but went beyond normal nicknames and said if there's ANYTHING you want to be called she would use that name instead. Granted, every teacher before that would hear the nicknames and just use them anyway, but this one went a step beyond that.

Not a single kid used their birth name. Some used regular nicknames, some used their parents nickname for them, and some chose something else. I went the cringier route and chose "silent hill because I like that game and I'm usually quiet" and sure enough she called me that all year. Had the nicknames down by the end of the week and still knew each child's real name for when she's talking to other adults.

I don't see what the big deal is with using someone's preferred name. Legitimately the only reason to not use it in this context is to be a piece of shit.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 months ago

Silent Hill LMAO, I love it. I once asked a teacher to call me Mega Man and she told me to fuck off.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Throughout all of my years at school, ending in late 2010s they always at some point around first day asked something similar too, but it was mostly just another name you go by rather than nickname.

Totally agree they should do something like that as a requirement, though.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 months ago

A kid in my class hated his first name Courtney, and went by his middle name, Roger (preferably Rodge), because there were several other girls in our grade named Courtney, and people had made fun of him for having a “girls name,” even though Courtney is technically not gender specific.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

This is not uplifting. This is a lose-lose as it's the type of case that this particular Supreme Court loves to add to their docket.

Eventually, SCOTUS will either rule that this does in fact violate his religious rights, or they will make a ruling siding with the school district that destroys part of the civil rights act, which is cited all throughout his filing:

"...repeatedly cites the 1964 Civil Rights Act and its Title VII section prohibiting workplace discrimination

[–] [email protected] 42 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Please stop bringing this kind of crap into "uplifting news."

This is objectively sad news. I'm not happy a kid isn't getting supported by his teacher at school. While it's probably good he was fired for it, it's not what I'd call "uplifting" at all.

[–] [email protected] 31 points 2 months ago

Ah, allow me to introduce you to the orphan crushing machine. It was born of a tweet:

"Every heartwarming human interest story in america is like "he raised $20,000 to keep 200 orphans from being crushed in the orphan-crushing machine" and then never asks why an orphan-crushing machine exists or why you'd need to pay to prevent it from being used."

[–] [email protected] 15 points 2 months ago

But it is uplifting seeing a bigot face consequences.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Maybe we should check to see what that VP candidate ~~James Donald Bowman,~~ ~~James David Hamel,~~ ~~J. D. Hamel,~~ ~~J. D. Vance,~~ JD Vance has to say about this.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago

And you just know this ass hole is going to vote for him

[–] [email protected] 19 points 2 months ago

Repeat after me: There's a difference between free speech and being a bigot.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 2 months ago (1 children)

No part of Christianity says anything about names.

Dude's just a bigot.

Thank fuck for Janet p on the Wisconsin supreme court!

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (2 children)

My parents told me that not wanting to use my birth name is not "honoring my mother and father", which is what the bible says to do.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago

Not taking his name in vain includes claiming to be a person of God but acting otherwise

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Yeah... that's a bit of a stretch to me, but an interesting interpretation I had not imagined. Good to have some insight in to how others think. Thanks for sharing that.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I agree it's a stretch, because as an adult I'm not subject to their demands. And I don't follow their dumb religion anyways so why would it even matter to me, lol.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

And I hope when people marry, they don't take the husbands name as a family name... I mean that's the same concept and not honoring the parents of the wife. I think if you believe in that, everyone absolutely also needs to stick with their maiden name.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago
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