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It feels dirty to agree with an ISP on something. But even the worst corporations are on the right side of something from time to time I suppose.

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[–] [email protected] 119 points 4 months ago (2 children)

I want to say as an employee of an ISP I literally dealt with users who essentially couldn't get high speed internet anymore at their address because we were the only option and their grandkids downloaded movies. This put the entire household at a grave disadvantage educationally compared to other households. It shouldn't be a thing.

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Shut down their access to computer stores and the power companies while you're at it. Only fair. No piracy without computers or power.

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[–] [email protected] 61 points 4 months ago (5 children)

The ISPs? doing something nice?? for the customers???
Shit, I must have slipped into the wrong timeline or something

[–] [email protected] 14 points 4 months ago

ISPs can't take your money if they cut off your internet

[–] [email protected] 15 points 4 months ago

It's less work and cost for them if they don't have to do this.

[–] [email protected] 34 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (2 children)

Nope, they just don't wanna be bothered. But if it's a win it's a win.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 4 months ago

Don't wanna be bothered/Don't wanna lose that sweet, sweet monthly

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[–] [email protected] 76 points 4 months ago

How about this: courts can't order ISPs to disconnect customers.

To me, that's like ordering my driveway barricaded because I have too many traffic tickets. If I'm breaking the law, charge me with a crime or sue me. But don't block my internet access, that's just uncalled for.

[–] [email protected] 230 points 4 months ago (5 children)

Internet shutoffs should require a court order. Not some emails that are "this person did a bad 🥺🥺🥺 no proof but can you please take our word for it 🥺🥺🥺🥺"

[–] [email protected] 33 points 4 months ago (2 children)

I had to process these requests at a company I used to work for. They do send "proof" (proof in quotes because you have to believe in good faith they didn't just make it up, which I have to believe they didn't).

We never shut anyone off though. We worked with business exclusively and only ever sent "scary" letters. Though we had one client that was a major music venue (a very known venue that's pretty famous) who would get these letters all the time. The irony was too much for me. I ended up calling them personally most of the time because it was too funny.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 4 months ago (2 children)

I've never gotten a scary letter, and I've certainly torrented my fair share of stuff, both legal and otherwise.

The trick, I think, is to not use cable. I've had municipal fiber, Google fiber, DSL, and small local ISP (RJ45 hookup at the wall), and never once had an issue. The last one is probably annoyed at me because I tend to submit tickets and call them within a few minutes of my service going down (happens once/month or so). It's extra funny when they ask me to check my wifi settings on my router, and I tell them my router doesn't have wifi (it's a Mikrotik router, my AP is separate), and that my wifi is absolutely fine, it's the uplink that's busted (i.e. I can access all the stuff on my NAS).

I made a promise to myself that once I left the house, I'd never get cable. And that's a promise I've kept across multiple apartments and now my house. We're finally getting muni fiber, so I'm pretty excited.

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[–] [email protected] 20 points 4 months ago (5 children)

I remember getting a scary letter because I was torrenting. I thought it so funny because I had to the only person in the world only torrenting freeaoftwarr and public domain works.

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[–] [email protected] 200 points 4 months ago (10 children)

Internet shutoffs shouldn't be a thing, outside of non-payment or legitimate abuse. If I do something illegal, they should have to sue me, not shut off my internet.

[–] [email protected] 102 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Yeah, they don't disconnect a criminals phone service because they committed a crime and made a phone call. It makes no damned sense.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

Only happens as a matter by court order and is a limit on the person not on the corporations. Though if found out after by the court it can be ordered terminated. And you will face further punishment. But this is levied against the person. As in "You are not allowed to do a thing and if we find out you did the thing you will face further punishments." Corporations should not have the responsibility or ability to determine any ones eligibility. They are a businesses not a government.They are responsible for their own tos and should never be anything more.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 months ago

Critical support

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