The only people surprised by this are america's white middle class. The poor have been expecting it for decades and the rich have been planning it for just as long.
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This is an unnecessarily edgy hot take. I don't think the middle class has their head up their ass on watching this it's been obvious for a long time. The actual divide would be along political lines.
Looks like a normal detention facility to me. What makes it a concentration camp? The lack of gas chambers?
Stop whitewashing Nazis, this hyperbolic shit has made the term useless
Your understanding of the term concentration camp – which you might exclusively associate with Nazi Germany – is erroneous. I wasn't exactly sure what a concentration camp was this morning, and I did something really crazy: I looked it up online using a relatively trustworthy source (bold is mine for the tl;dr):
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Concentration_camp
A concentration camp is a prison or other facility used for the internment of political prisoners or politically targeted demographics, such as members of national or ethnic minority groups, on the grounds of national security, or for exploitation or punishment.[1]
The term "concentration camp" and "internment camp" are used to refer to a variety of systems that greatly differ in their severity, mortality rate, and architecture; their defining characteristic is that inmates are held outside the rule of law.[2] Extermination camps or death camps, whose primary purpose is killing, are also imprecisely referred to as "concentration camps".[3]
The reason they use the term "concentration camp" is to associate it with Nazis. Sure, it can mean other things, but most people associate it with Nazis, and so they use that term intentionally. It's like how they use the term fascist, even that's Italian, it's come to mean Nazi.
It's all just stupid fear mongering.
I think you are comparing Trump and ICE after Trump's 125 days or so into office (for the second time) to Nazi Germany at the height of its crimes against humanities (e.g., the gas chambers).
However, Hitler was the head of state for 12 years. The people who are drawing Nazi-likeness may be looking at how similar the brands of fascism were at this point, or might be extrapolating out a few more years based on the enormous destruction in the first 125 days or of so this regime.
If you think drawing comparisons of this regime to the Nazi party are "fear-mongering," I respectfully don't think you're a very good judge of things at the moment, and I've tried to explain why. I think the US is racing away from precedent at blistering speed right now.
Don't play cute. The thing Hitler and the Nazis are most known for is the Holocaust. Namely the concentration camps featuring gas chambers. That's why they use those terms.
This is just fear mongering, and you know it.
It sure seems like you've got your terms backward. Could reading more help at all?
I think the only way you could be so closed-minded to thinking rationally about this stuff - and yet so confident in your own two cents - is if you are alright with what's happening or you don't get it. For some reason (e.g., coping strategy, or you're a bigot who's not yet concerned about their own welfare), you would rather call me a fear-mongerer than accept your own position of nonchalance while the US descends into fascism
And there it is. A normal detention center, a jail, is fascist. And you know why you think that? Not because of any facts, but how it's been presented to you
People who are in jail have been charged with a crime by law enforcement officials who are identifiable and they have rights as defendants in the legal system. The normalization of, celebrations of by the political elite, and greatly increased spending ('big ugly bill') on abductions, 'disappearings,' detention (etc.) outside of the legal system where none of those aspects of due process apply is what is fascist
Illegal immigration is a crime. It's in the name.
I'm reminded of the saying, you can't reason someone out of a position that they didn't arrive at by reason. You are under threat from the MAGA regime, but you may not be aware of it until you or someone close to you is directly harmed. Others of us can see what's here and what's ahead. May you go unscathed for as long as possible
You're Canadian. I hope you can afford a roof over your head for as long as possible.
Thank you, I hope you can too. Affordability is a concern for me, so I went back to school to transition to a more future-proof career. If you're concerned about affordability, there might be some more helpful things you can try than MAGA-brigading on Lemmy. I'd only checked your post history now, and I can see you have an extensive history of this. Wishing you well, my friend, life is short so I'm going to choose to spend more time interacting with other people on Lemmy. I encourage you to try to get fewer downvotes; try to connect with people. Show them who you are, what you like - beside the MAGA rhetoric, which I don't think is really you
There was the literal Nazi salute earlier this year. I think it’s accurate.
If it walks like one, talks like one, praises Hitler, that’s Nazi enough for me.
They didn’t build the gas chambers first.
Yup it is called Alligator Auschwitz.