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Windows 11 is getting a new start menu. EDIT: this replaces the "all apps" page by default, not the home screem (lemmy.zip)

submitted 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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More info about it here: https://www.ghacks.net/2024/08/13/windows-11-start-menu-is-getting-a-new-layout-to-organize-your-apps/

I love how microsoft never learns their lessons.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

bunch of fucking interface designers so deep into their shit that they're forcing everyone to chase the UX meta and play ranked competitive UI when 90% of everyone is just trying to be casuals and play what they're accustomed to so they can unwind at the end of the day

"yes well you see moving every interface element on your computer to a totally new location results in a 0.0001% improvement in the average user's workflow, therefore: bite the pillow, changes are coming, we're the experts you dumb schlubs!"

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

When was it ever about improving it for the end user? From the picture, it's absolutely terrible. You have what, four folders taking up the whole menu? Yeah, Windows XP had a more efficient workflow than that.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago

When was it ever about improving it for the end user?

back in the day when it was about building the best interface you could to last the product lifespan, maybe.

that's not profitable for the designers tho - chasing the current design meta is their version of planned obsolescence for interfaces. "oh that interface looks old so it doesn't work anymore" - statements dreamed up by the deranged and greedy.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I actually liked how the start menu works in Win10, with the rearrangeable/resizable tiles you can put wherever and categorize however you want. That was closer to what's pictured here, but this is still worse.

How do I get that back?

(...I actually liked Windows 8's Start Screen as well. I understand this puts me in the minority. Everything else about the Win8 UI was a five alarm dumpster fire, but I liked having a big colorful full screen app launcher that could be arranged in any way you wanted.)

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago

How do I get that back?

you can change the kde (linux) launcher to look like that

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago

This is why I use Fedora for everything except gaming and MS Office.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago

I can’t wait!

Lol jk I don’t use Windows garbage

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

I guess it’s better but it should be manual not automatic and it doesn’t fix the “can’t be placed at the top of the screen” bug

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

Not sure when it started, but I've already noticed some Start Menu fuckery with just the 'Sign Out' portion. I believe you previously just clicked on your profile picture/name and the options for signing out were right there. They've "helpfully" hidden those options now beneath a ••• menu for no apparent reason. I was a little aggravated when I first noticed it because it seemingly changed out of nowhere. Not a huge change, but it requires one more click to do now.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago

the changes in windows since 7 are a master class in UX design, as long as you remember it's a negative.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago

Right click the start menu should be easier to get to iirc

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago

they need to bring back a windows 2000 classic style start menu

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I for one dont see the fault in the design itself. Geniuenly looks like something usefull for pepole that use lots of tools.

If not for the fact that it already exist in the goddam pinned section in start menu and it replaces all items menu. Whyyy? These are not replecable by each other.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago

I use a lot of tools. I access them by hitting the windows key and typing the name of what I want. Or at least I used to before they incorporated a web search into the start menu that fucks it up 8 times out of 10. IDK how they ever thought that was a good idea. If I want to search the web I'll do it in a fucking web browser.

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