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Spreading of the 100 biggest Lemmy communities (media.gehirneimer.de)

submitted 5 months ago by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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The biggest surprise for me was the https://hexbear.net count, an instance I hardly interact with.

	Community Count	Community Subscriber Count
beehaw.org	6	133450
hexbear.net	33	663204
lemdro.id	1	17052
lemmy.blahaj.zone	1	15907
lemmy.dbzer0.com	1	53006
lemmy.ml	14	356460
lemmy.one	1	16257
lemmy.world	39	851950
lemmynsfw.com	2	33586
sh.itjust.works	1	16006
sopuli.xyz	1	14093

The data this is based on comes from https://lemmyverse.net where you can just download a full json of the data they have (I excluded all communities marked as "suspicious")

EDIT: The data if you sort by active users last month:

	Community Count	Community Active Month Count
awful.systems	1	2616
feddit.org	2	7363
feddit.uk	2	5289
hexbear.net	1	2952
lemdro.id	1	2898
lemm.ee	3	8898
lemmy.blahaj.zone	1	11422
lemmy.ca	3	14910
lemmy.dbzer0.com	3	13752
lemmy.ml	10	54949
lemmy.world	57	338384
lemmy.wtf	1	3602
lemmy.zip	3	12020
mander.xyz	1	11469
sh.itjust.works	5	37365
slrpnk.net	3	10897
sopuli.xyz	2	10070
ttrpg.network	1	4107

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[–] [email protected] 18 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Sorry mate, those figures with no meaningful captions are borderline incomprehensible. Like, what's the difference between first and second figure?

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 months ago (2 children)

awful.systems is up there?

have to say i'm surprised. and a little disgusted.

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 5 months ago

I'm just happy that Lemmy.ca made the list.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 5 months ago (2 children)

awww, my instance is not even on the chart. Big sad 😿

[–] [email protected] 6 points 5 months ago (1 children)

you're doing your part in keeping the federation healthy and decentralized o7

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 5 months ago (4 children)

everyone goes to the most popular one because they think that's the one with all the things on it that's how the internet works that's what everyone's doing

[–] [email protected] 12 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (22 children)

Everyone goes to Lemmy.world because unlike most instances it has (effectively) open registration and some popular Lemmy apps use it in their signup flow so new users don't have to understand the intricacies of the fediverse they can just hop straight in.

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 5 months ago (3 children)

Yay centralization!

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago

I went with it because I figured it had same peering defaults.

It does, which is really nice.

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 5 months ago

You're welcome.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 5 months ago

Does anyone else just see pacman throwing up a rave?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 months ago (1 children)

This highlights the problems with the Fediverse pretty well. Even decentralized systems tend towards centralization.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 5 months ago (1 children)

There's absolutely nothing wrong with a little centralization in your federation. It works well enough for email. The point is that you have the option, not that you have to use it.

You don't have to trade one extreme for the other. In fact, I think this is the perfect example of that. Lemmy.ml is the developers' instance, and by default would likely be the largest. Except... you know. Many, many people started there before going to other instances, especially the largest competitor.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 5 months ago (2 children)

The issue is that the kid that owns the ball sets the rules. LW could do something heinous, and the only choices would be to cope or lose half the Fediverse.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 months ago (2 children)

The thing is that the value is in the communities and not in the old content. So most likely the mods would just post we move to a new instance and a lot of users would follow. We just saw that on the German speakin lemmy instance feddit.de, which was abandoned and now most of the users and communities moved to feddit.org, which is already one of the larger ones.

What lemmy really needs is the ability to easily move accounts and communities. Mastodon has that for users already.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 5 months ago (3 children)

The lack of migration is what kept me on ml for several days after I found out what they consider ml stands for.

One click migration to a different instance would be a huge benefit to the decentralisation effort.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago

what they consider ml stands for

It's Mali, right? Right? Not some reference to communism?

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago (1 children)

You mean like if they went all tankie? Or like AOL email? This has already happened several times before and it's fine. Google could kill gmail in six months and we'd all move on.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (4 children)

I've run into issues where information I want access to just doesn't exist anymore because of the Reddit fiasco. The people that did that were a small minority of Reddit, and Reddit as a whole was basically unaffected by the protest after it was quashed.

Imagine the type of chaos it would cause if it came out that the LW admins were getting a corporate kickback to destabilize the Fediverse, or that they were involved in some other equally shady enterprise. It would probably be the end of the Fediverse, either through the created schisms or the lack of will to stop the corporate meddling. It would at least cause massive instability and make us look bad to users who would otherwise think of joining. A lot of information would probably be lost as people tried to push back. I'm sure a lot of people just wouldn't have the willpower to move their communities elsewhere and there would be a significant number of people supporting the admins' actions through apathetic inaction.

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 5 months ago (3 children)

OP, you know you don't have you use a table, right? You can make a bulleted list.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 5 months ago (1 children)

But I like my tables 🥺

[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 months ago (3 children)

In a world of mobiles being more ubiquitous than monitors, consider inverting your rows and columns next time. Scrolling down is more expected than scrolling sideways.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 months ago

will do 👍

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