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Linux is a family of open source Unix-like operating systems based on the Linux kernel, an operating system kernel first released on September 17, 1991 by Linus Torvalds. Linux is typically packaged in a Linux distribution (or distro for short).

Distributions include the Linux kernel and supporting system software and libraries, many of which are provided by the GNU Project. Many Linux distributions use the word "Linux" in their name, but the Free Software Foundation uses the name GNU/Linux to emphasize the importance of GNU software, causing some controversy.

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[–] [email protected] 24 points 7 months ago

Oh good, astrology for Linux, just what we needed. 🙄

[–] [email protected] 6 points 7 months ago

Your meme belongs in the bottom two tiers.

You did ask for honest!

[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 months ago

Haha, nice troll

[–] [email protected] 32 points 7 months ago (1 children)

This looks like a bunch of BS

[–] [email protected] 8 points 7 months ago

tier listing distros is such a Linux community thing to do. Wish we'd get past it.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 7 months ago

I don't really care, for me "linux" is a kernel, a bunch of gnu utilities, and I take Xfce as desktop. I can use firefox? an editor? cmake? gcc? I'm in business.

All distros are the same. The main diff is apt/yum/pacman/etc. to distribute packages.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 7 months ago

Tf does "modern" mean

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago

the fuck is modern, special, and typical

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago

Look at this guy putting debian in typical

[–] [email protected] 63 points 7 months ago (3 children)

Putting Arch in top tier then Endeavour in Why is hilarious

[–] [email protected] -3 points 7 months ago

Endeavour is objectively better than plain Arch, this list is incredibly subjective.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

To be fair, I would see why. Arch isn't that hard to install anymore so some people see Arch-based distros that are just Arch with GUI installer as useless. I use EndeavourOS just because GUI installer is more convinient to me.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 7 months ago

typical arch user

[–] [email protected] 18 points 7 months ago (2 children)

This can't be taken seriously.

GuixSD in tier-3? It uses the same tech as NixOS - store-based hierarchy, and functional, transactional package manager. The only thing that's different is the language - Guile Scheme is functional, acts as a convenient way for REPL as well as debugging the system, and eliminates additional scripting dependencies, while also being great for meta-programming. One language to rule them all. And yes, uses Shepherd instead of systemd. Want more GNU in your GNU/Linux? Guix is the thing. You can also probably boot using Hurd, but I've not tried that out.

I will not complain about the rest of them because I've not used them well enough. But I know that this tier-list is just bad. ClearLinux has a really good package manager - perhaps, the fastest of them all. And the rest of them are well, based on a root distro, and good for their specific use-case. Debian and Arch is also used for testing alternative non-Linux kernels. Alpine offers musl C instead of libc and Busybox instead of GNU coreutils+/-binutils.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago

NixOS has 80,000+ packages so realistically it's much more usable

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Thanks for doing the Guix rant I am too lazy to do. Also: does NixOS even have something like --ad-hoc?

[–] [email protected] 26 points 7 months ago (3 children)

Have you actually tried Manjaro or do you just listen to what other people say about it? I find it has no issues and have been daily driving it for like 3 years now. Just because something has negative hype doesn't mean it's as terrible as people say.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

I tried many times, though not recently and I agree with it being worse than just redundant. Sure, it's usable and maintainable, but it's objectively a bad idea.

You can just run vanilla arch, or one of the installers like Endeavor OS and just use BTRFS snapshots to counter breakages instead of Manjaro's delay thing managed by people I just cannot take very seriously.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 7 months ago (3 children)

This website has a good summary of the problems with manjaro https://manjarno.pages.dev/ . I've used it too and it's usable from a user perspective, but it has so many underlying issues

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago

Based on that, it has been over 464 days since the last fuck-up. Sounds good to me.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 7 months ago

I'm fully aware of the issues, but they've never impacted me personally and I'm not much of a distrohopper. If it ever borks my PC I'll probably switch.

[–] [email protected] 37 points 7 months ago (2 children)

I personally don't understand why anyone would put endeavour os in "why"

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago

Also Garuda :(

[–] [email protected] 12 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I've heard people say that because you can just install arch, which misses the point of endeavorOS

[–] [email protected] 8 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

exactly - that's like saying "it's pointless to order omelette in a restaurant when you can just buy eggs at the store" - very insightful, thanks!