AoE2 has been going for 2+ decades and is still quite strong.
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By pointing out a game released over 2 decades ago, I believe you are making their point.
??? RTS' require crackhead adhd attention splitting to be good at, not planning and concentration
By their own logic zoomers should be taking to them like fish to water
In what world is RTS dead? Strategy games in general have been making a huge comeback in the past five years or so. I would aks if this dude (because we all know it's a dude) lives under a rock, but he's on 4chan so we know he does.
4chan; a place where millennials can yell at clouds in peace.
RTS died when zoomers were like 5, nerd
True. There's a picture of me at five years old playing dawn of war
Wow, I didn't manage to kill a whole genre when I was 5. Some ants maybe, but not a genre.
StarCraft killed it by being too fucking good.
Pretty much. Blizzard supported the hell out of that game. Tweaked everything until it was perfect. At launch, it was as good as anything else at the time, but it wasn't knife-edge balanced like it became.
Modern Blizzard isn't capable of that anymore, and neither is anyone else. The genre can still innovate and provide perfectly good experiences otherwise, but it will always have this spectre of "not balanced like Starcraft" hanging over it.
I do not remember starcraft being perfectly balanced....
Grandmaster:
Protoss: 57%
Terran: 57%
Zerg: 55.2%
Masters 1:
Protoss: 52.7%.
Terran: 52.5%
Zerg: 51.9%
Masters 2:
Protoss: 51.2
Terran: 51.1
Zerg: 50.9
IDK, looks pretty balanced to me
Maybe because I only observe high level play.
Higher than Grandmaster and Master?
The genre can still innovate and provide perfectly good experiences otherwise, but it will always have this spectre of "not balanced like Starcraft" hanging over it.
Which is weird, because if you have a 3 faction RTS, the simplest, most balanced solution is to copy Rock, Paper, Scissors.
I don't think RTS was even big when RTS was big. SC1 and wc3's custom map scenes were way bigger.
A lot of the games that killed the RTS genre were even games from that custom map scene.
(That all being said, it didn't exactly die. Just it didn't grow the way Moba did)
Exactly! Tower Defence, MOBA, and all the other games built out of the RTS engine in custom maps replaced it, and this all happened years before Zoomers were even walking much less playing advanced video games.
Blaming the RTS genre dying on zoomers would be like blaming them for killing 90s rap, they had nothing to do with it and it's downright ludicrous to suggest.
Maybe what we miss is battle.net. It was essentially an endless games playstore and you didn't need to pay for any game modes. It was gamer paradise and we didn't even recognize it back then. We live in a gaming dystopia now
"We have battle.net at home"
at home: Roblox
It still exists. And for what it's worth many of the people I play StarCraft with today are zoomers.
fake news from anon. The problem is that we hit the supply cap/population limit/CONSTRUCT ADDITIONAL PYLONS so no more RTS... sad.
Just kidding, forget about all of those, we have Beyond All Reason: a free and open source RTS game set in space. Actively in development, cross-platform and has a unit cap way higher than any of the RTSs from the 2000s.
OpenRA is a open source red alert for anyone interested in a semi active (30 players?) RTS
RTS has been a dead genre since long before Zoomers started buying anything.
idk I live in South Korea and Starcraft is still going quite strong.
That's like saying Burgers are popular in the USA.