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Racism Is Why Trump Is So Popular (theintercept.com)
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TO UNDERSTAND THE rise of Donald Trump, you don’t need to go to a diner in the Midwest or read “Hillbilly Elegy,” J.D. Vance’s memoir.

You just need to know these basic facts:

In 1980, white people accounted for about 80 percent of the U.S. population.

In 2024, white people account for about 58 percent of the U.S. population.

Trump appeals to white people gripped by demographic hysteria. Especially older white people who grew up when white people represented a much larger share of the population. They fear becoming a minority.

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[–] linearchaos@lemmy.world 2 points 9 months ago

Yeah when Vance released that book and everybody said you've got to read it It explains the entire mindset of the conservatives. I found a copy and read it. I kept waiting for the other shoe to drop.

The entire f****** book is just an explanation that towns were built around big companies in coal mines and the big companies went overseas in the coal mines closed down. In the way it left drugs and joblessness.

It's not like immigrants are coming in and taking their jobs. And then the entire right is begging for companies to not have any repercussions for doing any of that s***. It's like they think if they're really nice to the companies the companies will be really nice back to them or something.

The whole book is just a poorly written country song that doesn't absolve any of the bad behavior at all.

[–] JimSamtanko@lemm.ee 6 points 9 months ago

Duh.

[–] Pacmanlives@lemmy.world 7 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Yuuuuup, just came from the bowls of Ohio and it’s a lot of truths

[–] machinin@lemmy.world 5 points 9 months ago (2 children)

I think you mean bowels?

[–] LustyArgonianMana@lemmy.world 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Bowls of Cincinnati chili

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Do not dignify that slop by calling it chili just because they call it chili.

[–] LustyArgonianMana@lemmy.world 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

An abomination by any other name is still an abomination

Can you imagine bringing Cincinnati chili to a chili cook off? With cinnamon and all?

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Right? The cinnamon.

[–] LustyArgonianMana@lemmy.world 2 points 9 months ago

The cinnamon and sweetness in it gives me goosebumps

[–] BarbudoGrande@lemmy.world 2 points 9 months ago

Smoking bowls in Ohio

[–] blady_blah@lemmy.world 23 points 9 months ago (2 children)

I actually think a core part of being republican has to do with hating someone and feeling superior to them. It can revolve around sex, education, accent, culture, religion, sexual orientation, government structure, or skin color, but they have to hate on someone. You can plot the generations of conservatives by who they (primarily) hate at any given time.

They have to wrap themselves in their hate-blanket and fantasize about how they'll have their AR-15 locked and loaded when the baddies come around. First they need to be scared, so they make up stories and lies about how "the other" corrupted their children, stole their jobs, took the government assistance, or performed DDOS on their interview, and then talk with friends or family on how evil the other is. Then they get great pleasure in having a big hate-orgy and trying hard to "trigger a liberal" spewing their made up hysterical bullshit.

A short list who's-who hate list for conservatives: communists, socialists, civil rights activists, labor unions, abortion rights people and doctors, environmentalists, academics, immigrants, "the gays" (all LGBTQ+ individuals), muslims, transgender people, "mainstream media". They've got to hate someone.

[–] TokenBoomer@lemmy.world 4 points 9 months ago

Authoritarian Personality

[–] Eiri@lemmy.world 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

That reminds me of the primitive human trait of tribalism.

If you have a group labeled "others", your group will get closer. If you have no "others" to fear, you'll find a way to invent such a group.

It's why I don't think humanity will ever get along unless an external, immediate threat unites us. Aliens or something.

But yeah, it feels like conservative people are just more... "Primitive" in that way. Their fear organ is just more developed.

[–] grrgyle@slrpnk.net 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

It's why I don't think humanity will ever get along unless an external, immediate threat unites us. Aliens or something.

What like a foreign dictatorship meddling in your democratic process? Or maybe that's not existential enough - what about an urgent planetary climate crisis caused by a greedy minority trying to steal or planet's limited resources to turn into useless stock?

[–] Eiri@lemmy.world 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

The tragic thing about that is that it's kind of not concrete enough for our little brains to comprehend on an emotional level.

Or rather, it's so large and long-term and complex that we can't deal with it.

[–] grrgyle@slrpnk.net 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I honestly think you'd still have collaborators with an obviously malevolent external force. Like say portals to hell opened up

[–] Eiri@lemmy.world 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Hmm, probably, but I feel like humanity would largely come together, or split into two camps.

I would envision either "everyone against the demons", and the few who are with them are a small, covert minority, kind of like criminals, or humanity splitting into two camps, which would still be division, but arguably less divided than how we currently are.

[–] grrgyle@slrpnk.net 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

To this point, how could we increase the number of people who take the side of humanity?

My thinking is that reducing anomie and inequality, increasing the bonds between people, all help move that number in a positive direction, as more of us realise that we need eachother.

This is my sneaky way of saying that we could be doing this now. That sure, maybe there will always be those who are just in it for themselves or a tiny in-group, but that's no excuse for fatalism/doomerism.

IE we don't have to wait for baleful aliens or demons spewing forth from hellgates. If we're not waiting for the perfect unifying scenario, we can start moving the needle in a positive direction now. :)

[–] Eiri@lemmy.world 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Oh yeah I certainly hope we can. It's just hard when there are big systemic and evolutionary obstacles in the way.

[–] grrgyle@slrpnk.net 2 points 9 months ago

Aye it's hard road... hundreds of years of progress can be erased with the swipe of a sword.

Not much else to do about it except try. That's how I see it anyway.

[–] TeoTwawki@lemmy.world 8 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (3 children)

They fear becoming a minority.

They operate under the false beliefs that they already are and that "the libs" bring in foreigners to tilt the vote (which is litteraly not possible) and then "those people get free everything" to feed further into racism. The imaginary bussed in people can't vote or get benefits but thier social circle says so and thats all they need to believe and repeat it.

The triangle of rhetoric is appeal to authority, appeal to emotion, appeal to logic. They don't accept any of it thay didn't come from within thier social group so there is no convinving them and that is why Tronald Dump can say he could shoot somebody on 5th avenue and have them call it fake news despite being recorded.

(Edit x 5 :Why oh why can't spellcheck just work?)

[–] rezifon@lemmy.world 4 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

The triangle of rhetoric is appeal to authority, appeal to emotion, appeal to logic. They don’t accept any of it thay didn’t come from within thier social group so there is no convinving them and that is why Tronald Dump can say he could shoot somebody on 5th avenue and have them call it fake news despite being recorded.

This is spot on. Delve into the inevitable "Politics and Religion" section of any old school web forum for white guy hobbies and nine times out of ten it's going to be knee deep in a loud circle jerk consisting of these exact guys whipped into a frenzy over nothing. Look, but don't touch, it's like a buzz saw in there.

[–] Silentiea@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Aren't they also the ones loading up all of their undesirables onto buses and shipping them off to more lefterly cities?

[–] TeoTwawki@lemmy.world 1 points 9 months ago

Yeah, coz every accusation from them is a projection if some type.

[–] w3dd1e@lemm.ee 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

This is exactly what my neighbor stopped me to tell me recently. About bringing in immigrants to vote and what not. I tried to tell him none of that information is true and show him where and why, but it’s really hard to do without making them dig further into their position.

Anne they are now conditioned believe that any media that doesn’t align with them is fake.

[–] TeoTwawki@lemmy.world 1 points 9 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Even when you do manage to get one to think and realize the truth their peer group will come down on them HARD for "falling for leftist propaganda" and they will 180 immediately.

[–] Resol@lemmy.world 9 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Pretty sure this applies to all right-wing politicians, especially ones of the far-right.

[–] Crikeste@lemm.ee 4 points 9 months ago

Yepp. Even if they don’t speak to it, they are Trojan horses.

[–] IamSparticles@lemmy.zip 11 points 9 months ago

Is anyone surprised by this? Trump is the same guy that spent 4 years demanding to see Obama's birth certificate because he didn't think he was a US-born citizen. That was his first foray into "politics" and it established both his loyal base and the tone of his public discourse.

[–] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 10 points 9 months ago

Why are they worried about white pepper becoming the minority? I mean, do we treat minorities badly around here or something?

[–] OldWoodFrame@lemm.ee 4 points 9 months ago

I feel like this article gets written every 3 weeks.

[–] pyre@lemmy.world 0 points 9 months ago

he's not popular. he's super unpopular. he was the biggest energizer for democratic voter turnout despite a super unpopular and boring democratic candidate. even when he won the election he lost the popular vote. just because US elections are very antidemocratic doesn't mean he's popular. stop making shit up.

[–] undergroundoverground@lemmy.world 5 points 9 months ago

Not just racism. His platform was racism AND a magical wall that pays for itself.

[–] Roflmasterbigpimp@lemmy.world 10 points 9 months ago

WHAT? Not Trump! /s

[–] Tja@programming.dev 12 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Why? Are minorities treated badly or something?

[–] BilboBargains@lemmy.world 4 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Dey turk mah jerb

[–] Fullyloadedsnowflake@lazysoci.al 1 points 9 months ago

DEY TUK IS JERB!!!!

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