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For these voters, Tim Walz is a reminder of their dad - before they were lost to partisan division (www.independent.co.uk)

submitted 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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Democratic vice presidential candidate Tim Walz embodies everything liberal women see in their own fathers – except for their political views. For some, it makes them hopeful but also very sad.

He’s got jokes, enthusiasm and a smiley face that’s not even remotely trying to hide how he’s feeling. He’s Tim Walz- and he’s bringing major Midwestern dad energy to the Democratic ticket.

At least that’s how many white women feel when they see Walz in videos, riding the Slingshot at the state fair with his daughter, signing legislation to give kids in Minnesota free lunches or tweeting about his pet cat.

It’s in stark contrast to what some see in their own fathers - who often have more conservative political views.

“He is silly. My dad used to be very, very silly and goofy,” Pamela Wurst Vetrini, a woman who recently compared Walz to her father, said in a viral TikTok video.

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“A lot of us had moderate to conservative, educated, sensible fathers that we lost to Rush Limbaugh. That we lost to Fox News. That we lost to Donald Trump. And the cult of conservatism that has grown and grown and grown has driven a wedge between millennial woman and her father,” she said.

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[–] [email protected] 41 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

It's amazing to see how Walz is outshining Harris as far as the media attention goes. He's so good at making the case for his positions and striking back at the right in a way that anyone can understand and embrace. Hope the campaign takes a note from Walz' policy accomplishments, because that's honestly the only thing lacking still. If they just copy paste from Walz' Minnesota populist accomplishments, you'll see them winning in a landslide.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 months ago

Does that mean we could lose T-Dubz to Fox News, too?

[+] [email protected] -17 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (7 children)

The deep longing so many people have for their lost fathers is really heart breaking.

Like, fuck. He's not your dad! Please stop trying to fill the hole in your heart with politicians and celebrities. Please go talk to a therapist about how your father abandoned you, or you lost him to right wing conspiracies, or how you miss him now that he's dead. Don't replace him with a guy you saw on TV! This isn't good for you and you're just going to get hurt.

[–] [email protected] 31 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

I mean, saying someone feels like the dad you could've had doesn't mean there's anything pathologic going on. They're just being wistful and pointing out that Walz is giving cool dad vibes.

I think you're being a bit hyperbolic by suggesting these women have literally formed a parasocial father-daughter relationship with him in 3 weeks.

[+] [email protected] -7 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Calling it pathological might be going too far, but it's heart breaking when someone talks at length about losing their father in the context of saying Walz reminds them of their dad. Whenever people elaborate it becomes clear there's something wrong.

There's a broken and sick society that's producing all these people who are longing for their lost fathers and it's just. Heartbreaking.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 4 months ago (1 children)

It is grief. Perfectly natural in those circumstances. Very similar to people loosing their parents to dementia or ALS.

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[–] [email protected] 58 points 4 months ago (6 children)

I haven't spoken to my dad since the pandemic when he rode the anti vaxxer bandwagon. He was also deeply into Trump, Putin and all that 5G spreading COVID conspiracy shit. At the time my spouse worked in hospitality and we were on the edge of our seats every day wondering if some douchebag customer would give us COVID. Eventually that's exactly what happened but of course that didn't matter to dad. I'm so tired of this extremist right wing ideology being normalised as a type of conservative - doesn't seem very family oriented to me when you beat your wife and alienate your traumatised adult kids.

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[–] [email protected] -4 points 4 months ago

Yeah I heard the same thing on Internet Today.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 months ago (1 children)

he's going to run for president in 8 years and we're going to have the old people problem again

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[–] [email protected] 68 points 4 months ago (1 children)

My dad died to cancer four years ago. He was my hero. UNTIL he became a red hat wearing piece of shit. I was sad obviously, but it didn't hurt nearly as bad as it would have if he was still my dad. I lost all the respect I ever had for him.

[–] [email protected] 28 points 4 months ago

Yeah. The person I grew up with spent lots of effort telling me not to be lot the person he became overnight in 2015.

Sucks to say, but the world will be a better place without him.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 4 months ago

He seems like a nice dude, I've met him at my uni once and he seemed cool for a politician, like genuine and not fake.

[–] [email protected] 153 points 4 months ago (2 children)

I think Tim Walz is very important, because he shows that "regular," working class, middle aged men don't HAVE to be conservative. We don't have to believe in baseless conspiracy theories, we don't have to reject scientific evidence, we don't have to divorce ourselves from reality. We don't have to believe that vaccines are evil, that climate change is a hoax, or that the 2020 election was stolen. Maybe we don't agree with everything the liberals say and do, but that doesn't mean we have to go full ding dong and start listening to Joe Rogan and Ben Shapiro. There are other options and Tim Walz is representative of at least one of those alternatives.

[–] [email protected] 29 points 4 months ago (3 children)

The fact that so many blue collar people are conservative when they could just as easily be liberals amazes me. Democrats are the ones who want unions, better environment, better labor rights, better working conditions, but somehow the conservatives are really good at lying and making propaganda.

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[–] [email protected] 80 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Not to mention that he shows that you can be both masculine AND change your mind about things. Even letting your children change your mind. Shocking!

[–] [email protected] 21 points 4 months ago

That's a really important point. For some reason, many men think it's somehow a sign of weakness to be wrong about something, or to admit that someone knows more about something than you do. I think you look weak if you refuse to admit when you're wrong and double down on some ignorant position out of stubbornness.

[–] [email protected] 29 points 4 months ago

And being masculine while openly giving support to the less fortunate. Contrasting with the might-makes-right view that these alt-right "masculine" types subscribe to.

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