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Schools and lawmakers are grappling with how to address a new form of peer-on-peer image-based sexual abuse that disproportionately targets girls.

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Jfc the replies here are fucking rancid. Lemmy is full of sweaty middle aged blokes in tech who hate it when anyone tells them that grown men who pursue teenage girls who have just reached an arbitrary age are fucking creeps, so of course they're here encouraging the next generation of misogynist scum by defending this shit, too.
And men (pretend to) wonder why we distrust them.

Ngl, I'm only leaving reply notifs on for this one to work on my blocklist.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 week ago

Yeah there’s some nasty shit here. Big yikes, Lemmy.

[–] [email protected] 75 points 1 week ago (21 children)

For example, Louisiana mandates a minimum five-year jail sentence no matter the age of the perpetrator.

That's just on it's face stupid. A thirteen year old boy is absolutely gonna wanna see girls in his age group naked. That's not pedophilia. It's wanting to see the girls he fantasizes about at school every day. Source: I was a thirteen year old boy.

It shouldn't be treated the same as when an adult man generates it; there should be nuance. I'm not saying it's ok for a thirteen year old to generate said content: I'm saying tailor the punishment to fit the reality of the differences in motivations. Leave it to Louisiana to once again use a cudgel rather than sense.

I'm so glad I went through puberty at a time when this kind of shit wasn't available. The thirteen year old version of me would absolutely have got myself in a lot of trouble. And depending on what state I was in, seventeen year old me could have ended listed as a sex predetor for sending dick pics to my gf cause I produced child pornography. God, some states have stupid laws.

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 week ago (8 children)

I don't understand fully how this technology works, but, if people are using it to create sexual content of underage individuals, doesn't that mean the LLM would need to have been trained on sexual content of underage individuals? Seems like going after the company and whatever it's source material is would be the obvious choice here

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 week ago

This is mostly about swapping faces. You take a video and a photo of someone's face. Software can replace the face of someone in the video with that face. That's been around for a decade or so. There are other ways of doing it.

When the face belongs to an underage individual, and the video is pornographic...

LLMs only do text.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

not necessarily. image generation models work on a more fine-grained scale than that. they can seamlessly combine related concepts, like "photograph"+"person"+"small"+"pose" and generate plausible material due to the fact that all of those concepts have features in common.

you can also use small add-on models trained on very little data (tens to hundreds of images, as compared to millions to billions for a full model) to "steer" the output of a model towards a particular style.

you can make even a fully legal model output illegal data.

all that being said, the base dataset that most of the stable diffusion family of models started out with in 2021 is medical in nature so there could very well be bad shit in there. it's like 12 billion images so it's hard to check, and even back with stable diffusion 1.0 there was less than a single bit of data in the final model per image in the data.

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Aren't there already laws against making child porn?

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I'd rather these laws be against abusing and exploiting child, as well as against ruining their lives. Not only that would be more helpful, it would also work in this case, since actual likeness are involved.

Alas, whether there's a law against that specific use case or not, it is somewhat difficult to police what people do in their home, without a third party whistleblower. Making more, impossible to apply laws for this specific case does not seem that useful.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 week ago

Instead of laws keeping up It also might turn out to be a case where culture keeps up.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 week ago (3 children)

My mama always told me, that if someone makes a deepfake of you, then you make a deepfake of them right back!

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 week ago (1 children)

In the bible, it says, and I quote: "If a deepkfake of you is made, you shall give the creator more material to create deepfakes"

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago

An eye for an eye, a tooth for a tooth, and a deepfake for a deepfake.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 week ago (1 children)

this advice might get you locked up

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 week ago

My mama also told me that if someone locks you up, then you just lock them up right back.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 week ago

Thanks, cap'n.

[–] [email protected] 28 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

I’m sure the laws will focus on protecting IP - specifically that of AI companies or megacorps, the famous and powerful, but not the small creators of content or the rabble negatively affected by AI abuse.

The rest of us will have to suffer through presenting whatever damaging and humiliating video to a court. If you can even afford a lawyer to do so. Then be offered a judgement that probably won’t be paid or won’t cover the damage done by an image that will never be able to be erased from the internet. Those damages could include the suicide of young people bullied and humiliated by such deepfakes.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 week ago

If kids want to be protected they need to get some better lobbyists. /s

[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 week ago (2 children)

So is this a way to take away rights by making it about kids?

I mean what the fuck. We did much less and got punished right? It didn't matter if we were on the property. Schools can hold students accountable for conduct with other students.

The leaded-gas adults of the time had no problem dealing with the emergence of cell phones. It was a distraction. They didn't need lawmakers to call it something specific. My Pokemon cards caused fights and were banned. No lawmakers needed.

The problem is surely with the interaction between parents and schools. Or maybe it's just the old way of thinking. Maybe it's better to have police and courts start taking over discipline in schools.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago

All your examples are of things that were stopped while at school, so your argument doesn't really carry over. You still had your pokemon cards everywhere else.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 week ago (1 children)

How is a school going to regulate what kids do outside of school property? They could ban cell phones on campus but that's not going to change what happens after hours.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Schools can already do that though. You can get in trouble for bullying outside of school, and when i was a student athletes i had pretty strict restrictions on what i was allowed to do because i was an "ambassador" for the school.

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