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[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago

Hypothetheory

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago

English is a juggernaut truck, it goes on regardless

[–] [email protected] 30 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (4 children)

Descriptive linguists unite! Words evolve and that's okay. Really science should pivot away and start calling more proven theories a different word if they're upset about the confusion.

The etymology of the word theory comes from a word with a meaning closer to "to look at or speculate" so even in that sense science kind of hijacked a word that was further from the modern scientific understanding of the word "theory" and descriptively transformed it themselves for use in their community. And that's okay too.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I've ranted about this so much to people close to me. Scientific community just needs to adopt a new word like you say, theory is a lost battle

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago

Would courses like Music Theory also need to get a new name?

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 month ago (2 children)

I accept it in colloquial discourse. I'm not happy about it, and I will smartass at everyone who isn't asking, but I accept that I'm probably fighting a losing battle. But in science, it's absolutely non-negotiable for words to mean what they mean, and not their own opposite.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Various fields have to adapt their terms all the time. For example, "idiot", "moron", and "mental retardation" were all official medical terms. Then they got used as an insult by the population at large, and got so bad that the medical field had to abandon them.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago

Medical terms being used as an insult is a very specific (and problematic) case. And they also weren't turned into their own opposite. They were equalized with stupidity.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago

Tell that to conventional current vs electron flow. Science is ever updating with new information and the words we use to describe it will change over time as well, but I get what you mean. Prescriptive linguistics especially in formal settings like scientific writing is helpful for clear communication.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago

Counterpoint:

The language of science is specific because it is beneficial to have standards that allow explicit specificity. Scientific linguistics evolve differently from the way colloquial linguistics evolves due to different motivations and this difference is okay.

The real problem isn't that scientific language is too strict but that we gatekeep scientific participation in every form, preventing most people from participating in such a way that scientific communication is not confusing. This is in addition to most scientific publications being unnecessarily written in inaccessible language. Specificity is helpful, but the excessive use of jargon and buzz-words to make yourself sound smarter through obtuse language is unhelpful for everyone involved. When jargon cannot be avoided, define it. If you cannot define it, reference a definition.

Clarity and accessibility in all scientific communication is the key to understanding.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

So you've met creationists.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Not in person, no. But I've had biology profs say that something was "just a theory".

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago

The worst part about that is, game theory is an actual field of math. You know, an ACTUAL theory.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago
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